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Post by tsmooth31 on Nov 8, 2008 22:38:20 GMT -5
ok no need to argue with a moron, i will let u live in ur dilusinal world where u are always right, and we will just ignore the fact that millions of people like the saw movies
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Post by lazario on Nov 9, 2008 5:20:53 GMT -5
Billions of people have no taste at all. What makes you think the millions of people "who like the Saw movies" are immune from that? Fewer people are willing to look closer, more people are likely to stay in denial, and more people just see something for a second without thinking about it.
At least I did think. That makes me righter than you are. If anyone's the moron, it's you. And you are CLEARLY the delusional one if you can't see how bad the writing on these movies are. You're supposed to be a horror fan.
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Post by tsmooth31 on Nov 11, 2008 4:35:33 GMT -5
some people think saw is a good movie, which most of this board does, and some people dont, just like every other movie, why cant you just leave it at that, we arent gonna change your mind and you arent gonna change ours, thats why its called an opinion and we will leave it at that
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Post by lazario on Nov 11, 2008 10:06:48 GMT -5
some people think saw is a good movie, which most of this board does, and some people dont, just like every other movie, why cant you just leave it at that T, we both didn't just join this board today or yesterday - I am here to speak the truth and nothing but the truth. I do not "leave" anything at any place other than the truth. we arent gonna change your mind and you arent gonna change ours, thats why its called an opinion Sometimes what I say is an opinion, sometimes it is a fact. You know this. We've been over this many times, but you still know it. Why are you always trying to switch things around? Sorry if you don't like hearing it. I truly am. But this is the way things are.
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Post by tsmooth31 on Nov 12, 2008 16:26:35 GMT -5
yes and we have been over this to, saying a movie is good or bad is an opinion because we all see movies in different ways, and we all have diff tastes and standards
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Post by lazario on Nov 13, 2008 3:39:30 GMT -5
saying a movie is good or bad is an opinion Sometimes yes, sometimes no. That has to do with what people consider the objective and the subjective. Which are just labels that don't mean anything but they do relate to this issue. we all have diff tastes and standards Yes that's true. But the trick here is to understand the different kinds of movies. And experience is important. Experience mixed with perception. It's not about picking the movie apart, it's about noticing a lot of different things. That's why I, as you say, "see more" than you do. You're admitting now in fact that "we all have different tastes and standards." I don't just have different tastes and standards - I have many more of both that I would assume you have (because of your track record). And I'm not always right, just almost everytime. we all see movies in different ways But as I've often explained, there are standards for film quality. You've already admitted that you don't understand them - acting quality for instance. Therefore, you've already admitted that you see I'm kind of right. Soon maybe you'll see I'm completely right. But it doesn't matter whether you do or not. Because acting quality is only one of several components to a movie's overall quality.
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Post by tsmooth31 on Nov 13, 2008 19:34:40 GMT -5
ok whatever, its like arguing with a 2 year old, you always have to be right no matter what, even when we all know opinions cant be right or wrong
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Post by lazario on Nov 14, 2008 9:17:48 GMT -5
we all know opinions cant be right or wrong T, we've both agreed that that is true. But not all movie observations are opinions. That is a fact. A fact you choose not to recognize so that you can get away with saying really stupid things like the Saw movies are great- among many mindless things you like to say. you always have to be right no matter what It's case by case, as I've already said. I never said I was always right - you're the one who says that. As a way of trying to worm out from under the rock you put on yourself. But remember - it's not me who makes it this way, it's you. ok whatever, its like arguing with a 2 year old Then you're arguing with yourself. Because I'm discussing - you're arguing. GROW UP, you little shit. You are the one who's throwing a temper tantrum just because you can't have this discussion your way. Get over it, this is the way it is. It's not going to change nor am I going to give in just because you're a big baby. And the reason you keep doing this "well it's over, I'm done" routine is because you make this whole thing about winning and losing. It's not supposed to be a competition, but YOU make it that way. Not me. And this is yet one more proof of you doing that. I don't give a fuck which of us you think is better. And you pretend like you don't either. Wake up! You started this and you know it. Quit blaming me for your childish, moronic bullshit.
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Post by malbowski13 on Nov 15, 2008 11:33:35 GMT -5
Why don't you guys just get married already?! I guess not in California...
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Post by lazario on Nov 16, 2008 8:00:21 GMT -5
Why don't you guys just get married already?! I ... don't ... think ... so
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Post by tsmooth31 on Nov 19, 2008 5:18:48 GMT -5
maybe if i was gay, at least then i could show him what its like to watch REAL horror
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Post by lazario on Nov 19, 2008 5:47:33 GMT -5
I'm sure looking at you naked is scary enough. So save whatever you think you've got for your chica.
Maybe if you were a real horror fan, you could teach the old-you a thing or two.
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Post by tsmooth31 on Nov 21, 2008 5:25:19 GMT -5
if by scary you mean sexy you are correct
and i am a real horror fan, which is why i can appriciate a movie done on a micro budget all the way to a hollywood budget and everything inbetween, although everyone who posts here is a horror fan so i dont even know why you bing that up
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Post by lazario on Nov 21, 2008 6:11:19 GMT -5
if by scary you mean sexy you are correct Does anyone ever mean sexy when they say scary? and i am a real horror fan Cool. Than - what do you think of the masterpieces The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974) and The Evil Dead (1981)?
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Post by tsmooth31 on Nov 22, 2008 6:37:50 GMT -5
didnt like either, they were both boring and uninteresting
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Post by lazario on Nov 22, 2008 8:29:03 GMT -5
Why do you think that they were? You still have never provided examples. How do I know you even watched them?
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Post by tsmooth31 on Nov 23, 2008 1:22:13 GMT -5
because if i havent watched a movie i wouldnt say i have and proceed to say it was boring, i watched both and neither kept my interest, i think the main reason i didnt like TCM was because i had heard great things about it and how it was so shocking and blah blah blah, and it ended up being of of the more tame horror movies i have seen and boring at that, but there is really no reason to talk about TCM, we have talked about it many times, you like it and i dont, lets talk about other movies
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Post by lazario on Nov 23, 2008 14:17:14 GMT -5
T - you are not a horror fan. You are a moron and a phony. Stop pretending you understand anything. You're not very good at it.
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Post by tsmooth31 on Nov 26, 2008 5:10:11 GMT -5
your not a fan of horror
see i can do that too, gets us nowhere, so like i said in the other topic stop the bs or your pointless troll posts will just get deleted and no response from me
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Post by lazario on Nov 27, 2008 4:16:33 GMT -5
Yes I am. And the only reason you say that is because you don't understand the difference between PAYING ATTENTION and not trying to pay attention, which is what you do. People who like movies like Saw don't understand a host of fundamental film qualities. If you're jaded or look to movies to provide you with excitement that you're not getting in real life - HOW am I supposed to relate to you? I look to movies for lots of things at the same time, and with horror I get that quite a lot. You seem to want 1 thing and if you don't get it, the movie sucks. The reason this decade in horror sucks is not because it's missing one thing, it's missing almost EVERYTHING that makes horror great. But you wouldn't understand that because you don't try to think. You turn off your brain. I can't do that. I'm too fucking smart. I'm proud of the fact that Saw is "Kiddie Horror" for me. You know that shit isn't extreme. So you pretend it's smart. Yeah, it's as smart as C.S.I. Ever seen that show? It's shit. It's stupid. It's thorough on technical jargon and the characters are made out of cardboard. So are the characters in the Saw movies. So to match the fact that those movies have no more style than a bad MTV Music Video, the stories have no brains either. You forgive them just because you like the little traps. So fucking what? They got that from looking up "torture devices" on the internet. ANYONE can do that. like i said in the other topic stop the bs or your pointless troll posts will just get deleted and no response from me I don't fucking care about what you have to say. Based on what I have on you so far - YOU'RE A FUCKING IDIOT. You don't know what a troll is because Trolls THINK LIKE YOU. Not me. Delete what you want, I'll put IT ALL back up.
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