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Post by lazario on Sept 5, 2008 16:46:33 GMT -5
All the message boards do this, after a topic has gotten so many pages of replies, it restarts. So, without further ado, finally watched: and it was bad just like I predicted it would be. Looks like doing your homework is smart after all. The music score was great but it was all wrong for the movie/episode. The acting was okay but they messed up a lot. The story was complete shit. The effects weren't great. The monsters looked stupid. It wasn't scary. It was predictable. And John Carpenter already did this movie twice - first it was called Assault on Precinct 13 and then it was called The Thing (1982). It's also incredibly offensive to pro-choicers. It gave the pro-lifers a functional excuse to do what they did, let them off the hook when they found out something evil was responsible, and showed more violence done to the abortionists than it did to the pro-lifers. It was pandering, stupid, and bad. So, I was right again. Tomorrow, I'm going to see about watching Pelts.
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Post by tsmooth31 on Sept 5, 2008 21:01:55 GMT -5
whatttttt no need for a part 2!! that was the hot topic, and pro life was easily one of the best episodes out of both seasons combined, an no your not right when you say its bad, we both have our own opinions, end of story
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Post by malbowski13 on Sept 5, 2008 22:20:20 GMT -5
Pelts is a lot better IMO.
Ron Perlman was kickass in Pro-Life. The scene with the doctor getting a "suck job" was pretty nasty.
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Post by shunty on Sept 5, 2008 22:43:03 GMT -5
i agree with you t when you say that pro life was good and i agree with mal when you say that pelts was actually better. but for the record i really don't like ron perlman and i think he completely phoned it in in that episode. satan is one lucky bastard though for fucking caitlin wachs.
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Post by tsmooth31 on Sept 6, 2008 4:24:15 GMT -5
i didnt really care much for pelts, it was violent but the gore was pretty fake looking, and the story wasnt anything special, not a bad episode but not a fave of mine
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Post by lazario on Sept 6, 2008 5:50:08 GMT -5
Finally watched the most famous horror movie in the history of the genre: Unfortunately, even though it's classic horror, I can't say it's all that it was cracked up to be. Some of it is very effective and cool. Some of it is downright schlocky and... bad. Some of it is boring. And then there's the music. Which was recreated in the 1990's by Philip Glass. It's too much, too loud, they play it too often, it's too "sweet" sounding... And it feels too new. I want to experience the film as it was originally intended. If that means no score... I'll be fine. But it's not a bad movie though. Martin is funny, very funny! And Renfield was a great character in this movie. I liked them and their sanitarium-routine better than the "main" characters in the movie. Well... it was bad. Because the story was crap. But... it was really interesting. Well visualized. Provocative. Some of the gore was good. Most of the gore was bad though. And... CGI? Oh- hell no. I had to knock off half a star for that alone. But the idea was so great, as Mick Garris famously says, it should have been "really tough to fuck it up." But Argento is more elegant than this episode. It's not trademark Argento at all. Maybe it should have been. But it was shocking. That bit where Shanna got her hand cut off in the elevator was funny. FINALLY! A winner from the ratty 2nd season of Masters of Horror. Hallelujah! Of course... CGI had to enter the picture and ruin it... So I'm obliged by the rules of quality cinema to give it: But it's actually pretty darn well-made. Finally a good story, a little interesting character work, great ending, and a political piece that actually knows what to do with the politics! Of course it wasn't perfect. There were a couple of big holes. Like why he's in his 40's and she is clearly still in her 20's. And the way his character is set-up, it's a little deceptive to reveal that he set her on fire on purpose. There were more. Plus the effects weren't great either. How many darn skinnings are they going to put in 1 season? They never look good. i agree with you t when you say that pro life was good Suck up, kiss ass, follower. pro life was easily one of the best episodes out of both seasons combined No it wasn't, you fucking moron. You don't know anything. You're a retard. Go back to Over-the-Cuckoo's-Nest where you belong. When did they let you out of Smith's Grove? and no your not right when you say its bad, we both have our own opinions, end of story YOU WISH, T! You always wish. But wake up and face reality. I am right. Pro-Life does suck. It's bad. And that's the end of story. Sorry. I know you can't handle this.
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Post by tsmooth31 on Sept 6, 2008 20:04:05 GMT -5
right to die was great, felt like a tales from crypt episode and i loved the ending, deff one of the best episodes from either season right along with pro life
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Post by shunty on Sept 6, 2008 20:08:12 GMT -5
i guess we are using this topic for movies now so... i just watched an exploitation movie from the 70s called Invasion of the Bee Girls. Great exploitation and a ridiculously funny (because it's so stupid) ending. i loved right to die too.
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Post by lazario on Sept 7, 2008 15:38:47 GMT -5
Oh...My... GOD! See it for yourself and you'll know what I mean. Would have gotten a perfect 4 had it not been for the overabundance of rape scenes. I was also slightly disappointed with the part of the ending with the neighbors gathering. Polanski did this better I thought with The Tenant. right to die was great, felt like a tales from crypt episode and i loved the ending, deff one of the best episodes from either season right along with pro life I wouldn't go that far. The first season didn't feel the need to cave-in to CGI. Out of 13 films/episodes, the only one where you could actually tell there was CGI was Fair Haired Child and it was only for a split second when Johnny's hand was coming up the stove pipe. That was it. Right to Die had that scene in the hottub that was working until she dissolved like water into the corpse... Like water. She should have looked like she was burning or melting away. So the CGI effect not only didn't work - but the way it looks cheapened the entire film/episode. So your comparison to Pro Life might be fair. Because even with Right to Die being so much better than it should have been (especially since the director's only experience in the horror genre before this was the stupid Wrong Turn), it still made the worst mistake a good movie can make these days - CGI. It's like the director knew what he was doing until he went insane and thought CGI would work.
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Post by tsmooth31 on Sept 8, 2008 4:28:38 GMT -5
you have a sick obbsession with CGI, like i have said i hate it just as much as you, but a little bit of lousy CGI doesnt take away from an overall good episode, if everything else in the movie is good you should be able to overlook CGI, and in right to die just about everything else worked perfect
the best example tho is prob family man, i really liked that episode even though the CGI was absoutly terrible, it was on par with some of the worst scifi original movies
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Post by lazario on Sept 8, 2008 6:27:42 GMT -5
Another one-liner machine. Inadequate characters. No style. But... some of the camerawork was good. Lezlie Deane is in it- she's amazing. Some of the humor is funny. Thank goodness this is the only movie Robert "Freddy Krueger" Englund made. I'd hate to find him stretching himself suddenly thin. you have a sick obbsession with CGI, like i have said i hate it just as much as you, but a little bit of lousy CGI doesnt take away from an overall good episode Yes it does. if everything else in the movie is good you should be able to overlook CGI It's not up to me. I forgave it as much as it could be forgiven. the best example tho is prob family man, i really liked that episode even though the CGI was absoutly terrible, it was on par with some of the worst scifi original movies You mean - Family? The John Landis Masters of Horror movie/episode? Right?
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Post by lowkey on Sept 8, 2008 7:23:15 GMT -5
Oh if you think 976 Evil is bad, you should check out the sequel.
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Post by malbowski13 on Sept 8, 2008 18:20:03 GMT -5
Maniac Cop : Not bad,not bad. A few cool parts including a prison murder scene and some cool car crashes. Bruce Campbell didn't really shine in this one. 7/10
Frankenstein (1931) : Pretty awesome. Fritz is an even cooler assistant than that little shit from Manos-Hands of Fate. I need some more B&W films in my collection so I will probably pick up the others from this series. 8/10
Puddle Cruiser : The first movie from the Broken Lizard guys( Super Troopers, Beer Fest). To be honest, I wasn't rolling around laughing. But it was their 1st feature so I will be lenient. 6/10
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Post by tsmooth31 on Sept 8, 2008 23:05:42 GMT -5
You mean - Family? The John Landis Masters of Horror movie/episode? Right?
ya i meant family, dunno why i typed family man, wasnt that the name of the fear itself episode??
Maniac Cop : Not bad,not bad. A few cool parts including a prison murder scene and some cool car crashes. Bruce Campbell didn't really shine in this one. 7/10
i bought maniac cop as a blind buy a couple years ago, i expected it to be better, but like you said campbell didnt really shine, but overall it wasnt bad, 7/10 sounds like a fair score
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Post by lowkey on Sept 9, 2008 6:18:45 GMT -5
What a piece of shit. This is supposed to be a dystopian satire of neo-conservatism, and religious fundamentalism. The funniest scene in the flick involves a man and his pet chimp eating beans and farting. It's about an America in the not too distant future (100 years or so), being turned into an iron fisted, religious dictatorship. Relics of the past, like Playboy back issues, are priceless collectors items. Most people are piss poor, and live in homeless shelters. There's an underground resistance movement, which is apparently comprised of two sisters, and the farting man and his chimp. They trick two brothers into helping them find a treasure, that is sure to motivate the masses to rise up--it's a VHS tape of a DJ giving an pretty lame anti-establishment speech. Mostly this is just uneventful, and boring. The pacing jumps all over the place, and there's no real character development. The plot, which sounds interesting at first, turns out to be pretty retarded. There is a great deal of action in the last 15 minutes or so, but by then you don't give a fuck anymore. Avoid at all costs.
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Post by lazario on Sept 9, 2008 9:03:18 GMT -5
Oh if you think 976 Evil is bad, you should check out the sequel. Saw it over a decade ago. I love it! Pure Jim Wynorski magic. If it were on DVD in the U.S., I would have bought it years ago. You mean - Family? The John Landis Masters of Horror movie/episode? Right? ya i meant family, dunno why i typed family man, wasnt that the name of the fear itself episode?? Yep - the Ronny Yu episode. As for John Landis's Family, the problem beyond CGI was that it mirrored Psycho too much. I mean, I don't want to be too harsh- but at some point people have got to stop ripping that film off. The only good idea in Family was that the man would talk to people and then you would see skeletons. After that, first of all- the twist sucked. The music score was bad. There was too much technology. It had no style. It was visually boring, the music was boring, the performances were poorly pitched (like a soap opera, there was terrible balance). And in the end - what did we get? The skeletons in Psycho only done in a very unscary way. So it's not scary. But it's also done in such a thriller way that it isn't funny either. What a piece of shit. This is supposed to be a dystopian satire of neo-conservatism, and religious fundamentalism. The funniest scene in the flick involves a man and his pet chimp eating beans and farting. Well a fart scene is without question a sign that the film is weak. Just a word though - IMDb will never let you use their pics. I use Allmovie . com. There you go. As for me, the last thing I watched was: This nice little (1 hour - 40 minute) documentary, 100 Years of Horror, hosted by Christopher Lee. Which counted horror from the late 1800's to 1994. They showed scenes and discussed a lot of horror movies - but unfortunately forgot a ton as well. They kind of lumped subgenres together and forgot 2 big ones. They did killers (Maniac, Repulsion), slashers (Friday the 13th, Halloween, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Suspiria), frankenstein, werewolves (Werewolf of London, I Was a Teenage Werewolf, The Howling, Wolf), demons (The Exorcist), the devil (The Omen), vampires, dinosaurs (Godzilla, Jurassic Park, Ray Harryhousen's stuff), animal people, mummies (The Mummy, The Invisible Man), aliens (Alien, The Thing, Invasion of the Body Snatchers), and creatures from outer space (The Blob, It! The Terror from Beyond Space). But they forgot zombies entirely - so there was no mention of Night of the Living Dead, Dawn of the Dead, Evil Dead, Re-Animator, Return of the Living Dead, or any of the Hammer zombie films. They didn't mention voodoo or witchcraft - so they forgot Child's Play, Carrie, Rosemary's Baby, Dolls. They also didn't do any ghosts now that I think about it. No mentions of The Haunting, The Changeling, The Fog, 13 Ghosts, The Innocents, Carnival of Souls. And it got boring toward the end. But it was still half-decent. Well, we have another contender for worst of the season right here. Granted this is the 6th film/episode I've watched of the 2nd season. But with that in mind - this piece is cliched, has no quality story, the characters are perfect cliches (misfit black guy, "emo"-ish white kid). It's geeky, it does not authentically represent youth culture, the dialogue is awful, it's homophobic, there's CGI. It rips off dialogue from Dracula and copies a scene from John Landis's excellent Innocent Blood, showing the exact same scene from Dracula playing on a tv that plays in Innocent Blood. I believe The Black Cat is next.
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Post by lowkey on Sept 9, 2008 16:46:37 GMT -5
Thanks for the tip. I did a quick google search but couldn't find another one.
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Post by tsmooth31 on Sept 9, 2008 18:31:31 GMT -5
wow that rebel storm is one of the worst covers i have ever seen in a movie
as for the v word that is one of the only episodes from season 2 i have never seen, never really had an interest in it
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Post by malbowski13 on Sept 9, 2008 19:08:56 GMT -5
V Word stunk. Michael Ironside couldn't even save that piece of poo.
Lifeforce = This looks better than a lot of movies today. The shriveled corpses look wicked and Mathilda May isn't too hard on the eyes either. Good story with an English tone to it. I underestimated the length last night and must watch the last half hour tonite. So far 7 1/2 /10
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Post by shunty on Sept 10, 2008 0:01:55 GMT -5
i didn't like lifeforce. the woman's tits were the high point. it was nothing more than what i expected from the trailer.
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