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Post by lazario on Sept 27, 2007 15:02:38 GMT -5
It's a Bush-bashing episode. I'm required by law to own a copy of it... as soon as WalMart prices it for $8.36 just like all the other episodes! Maybe for their yearly section of Halloween horror themed movies, they'll have the Masters of Horror DVDs and all for $8.36 like they're supposed to be. ..im not to sure you would like it laz..cuz i know you like to take everything serious and critic every little thing.. If I 'critic'-ed (I think you meant "critique" - the ique sounds like "eek", ic sounds like "ick") every little thing, I couldn't possibly enjoy the Friday the 13th movies, which I very much do (except Jason Goes to Hell and Freddy Vs. Jason, they were just plain terrible).
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Post by tsmooth31 on Sept 27, 2007 17:26:48 GMT -5
it really doesnt bash bush much at all..never directly..it has a bush thing at the very end that is more stupid/cheesy then anything..now if you were to say it bashes geroge washington then id agree..like i said its fun to watch but you will find 100 things wrong with it roger ebert
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Post by lazario on Sept 27, 2007 17:35:05 GMT -5
We'll see, we'll see.
By the way- are you trying to talk me out of watching it??
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Post by tsmooth31 on Sept 27, 2007 17:40:53 GMT -5
well judging by the way you act on here i dont think you will like it..if you could sit back like me and have fun watching it and not take it serious then its a good, fun and entertaining episode...but you like to go by what other people say and then be a critic yourself..so i wouldnt really say im trying to talk you out of it i just expect some rogert ebert type of moronic review as to what you didnt like about it
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Post by lazario on Sept 27, 2007 17:43:53 GMT -5
So you're saying people with intelligence are moronic???
You need to understand something - some people actually watch movies differently than you do. Some people actually care about characters, plot, visual and audio production values, and lots of other things. Some people don't actually "just sit back and watch" to have fun. And movies are a lot more than fun- which you yourself have said. I thought you said Pro-Life had a message... Are messages fun? Or are they kind of serious? I'm leaning toward serious...
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Post by tsmooth31 on Sept 27, 2007 17:51:21 GMT -5
thats not what im saying at all..did i say everything as to be fun??? no...yes pro-life was fun to watch but it also had a good message at the end..what im saying is you have to take a movie for what it is..the acting by the washingtonian guys is way over the top..but thats the way its meant to be..its not an episode where you sit there and take it serious..im not saying the acting was bad because i didnt think that..but if a movie has bad acting it can still be good..unless your a critic..they just like to hear themselves complain..most movies are meant to just sit back and have a good time..not to pick apart..because if we were to do that then we can find bad in every movie..no movie is perfect
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Post by lazario on Sept 27, 2007 18:10:11 GMT -5
TSmooth, no offense, but you're talking yourself into No Man's Land right now. You expect me to believe that what I've said against movies like Pro-Life and House of 1,000 Corpses is bad. But you've gone way farther off the deep end than I have! Everytime you go on about how bad you think Squirm is and how much Texas Chainsaw Massacre disappointed you.
If you don't like that I judge movies more by detailed facts than flighty opinions, that's kind of too bad. I don't say this just to bother you. It's the way it is.
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Post by tsmooth31 on Sept 27, 2007 18:19:04 GMT -5
you can think what you want..but make sure you leave it at that..its what you think..its not the truth because we all think diff things..you cant comment on pro-life since you havent seen it..you can hate house of 1000 corpses..i have no prob with that..but dont act like you know more about movies..you can think TCM was a masterpiece..i thought it was crap..that doesnt mean it is a masterpiece and im wrong and you are right like yo like to think..it just means we have diff opinions on it and none of us are right or wrong
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Post by lazario on Sept 27, 2007 18:27:48 GMT -5
you can think what you want..but make sure you leave it at that..its what you think..its not the truth because we all think diff things.. Ahh, but history proves that that is not so much true after all. you cant comment on pro-life since you havent seen it.. It depends upon what the comment is. My comments happen to have been very insightful. you can hate house of 1000 corpses..i have no prob with that..but dont act like you know more about movies.. Maybe I do- you can't prove that I don't. In fact, the more you tell me I'm acting like a critic, the more you're just saying You don't like the fact that I do know a lot. Maybe that is more than you. What you're talking about isn't Knowledge- it's love. You think I'm saying I love horror more than you just because I look at it with more detail and care than you do. I'm not. you can think TCM was a masterpiece..i thought it was crap..that doesnt mean it is a masterpiece and im wrong and you are right It is a masterpiece. History has proven that it is. What do you know about what I "like to think"?? it just means we have diff opinions on it and none of us are right or wrong That depends upon what the "opinion" is. Many opinions can be right or wrong. I'm not saying all. But many.
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Post by tsmooth31 on Sept 27, 2007 18:38:20 GMT -5
see you are always talking about how you know horror more then everyone else..your opinion is just that an opinion..doesnt mean you know or love horror more then me..i dont go read some review and then make my judgement of the movie off of that..i see the movie before i judge it..by acting like you are always right makes you seem like some know it all teenage girl
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Post by lazario on Sept 27, 2007 18:50:37 GMT -5
see you are always talking about how you know horror more then everyone else.. Hey, TSmooth... check this out: LISTEN TO WHAT I SAY. To get what I'm saying, that is ESSENTIAL. You have to read the words and make them register in your brain. If you don't, then you do not understand. I did not say that "I know horror more than everyone else." This is what I said, AND I QUOTE: "Maybe I do ((know more about horror)). In fact, the more you tell me I'm acting like a critic, the more you're just saying You don't like the fact that I do know a lot. Maybe that is more than you. What you're talking about isn't Knowledge- it's love. You think I'm saying I love horror more than you just because I look at it with more detail and care than you do. I'm not." READ THAT and then try responding again when you've actually used your brain to register in what I said. i dont go read some review and then make my judgement of the movie off of that.. What are you talking about? I told you 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times now that ALL THE REVIEWS SAID THE SAME THING. When that happens... WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT MEANS? i see the movie before i judge it..by acting like you are always right makes you seem like some know it all teenage girl So you hate teenage girls??
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Post by tsmooth31 on Sept 27, 2007 19:02:41 GMT -5
the more i tell you that you act ike a critic means stop acting like a moronic know it all..because thats what a critic is a moronic know it all..and as for all the reviews saying the same thing..that isnt true..maybe the few moronic critics you looked at said that..but look at imdb..its all 50/50 for just about every episode..and yes i hate most teenage girls..especially the ones that think they know it all
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Post by lazario on Sept 27, 2007 19:16:02 GMT -5
the more i tell you that you act ike a critic means stop acting like a moronic know it all.. Why do you keep telling me I'm a "know it all"? Did I ever say I know it all? No. I never did. If that's what you think, so what? However, what I did say was that I know a lot. Why do you think that doesn't mean anything? Because you wish it didn't? See, I give you room to answer that. Everyone used to do the "opinion" thing. It's over. These are not the times for "opinions." Things are messed up. They're not going to get better. We've had enough of the "I don't know" generation and if we don't try for making things better, they're going to keep getting worse. That bothers me. If you don't care, then maybe your opinion isn't so important. MAYBE. I said "Maybe." Meaning: "Maybe." thats what a critic is a moronic know it all.. Bullshit. If that were true, there wouldn't be any of them. ..maybe the few moronic critics you looked at said that.. Few??? You mean, the majority? Of all the horror-themed websites? The people who eat, sleep, breathe, and live horror? You just can't get over it can you, that they don't agree with you? but look at imdb..its all 50/50 for just about every episode.. If you actually trust the IMDb, you don't know what that site is. The IMDb is not made of many people who care about the Horror Genre. Or even know movies that well. And you need to understand the Breakdown of the IMDb Rating System to understand that. STOP PIMPING THAT SITE. They're fucking idiots. They are critics too - only with no credentials. Aka : Posers.
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Post by tsmooth31 on Sept 27, 2007 19:21:36 GMT -5
well i told you im gonna stop..and no i dont trust imdb i dont trust any1 but myself..i eat, sleep, breath and live horror therefore i trust myself..every single critic is a moron..like i care if they agree?? id rather them not..and if you actually let them make the decision for you then you are no better
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Post by lazario on Sept 27, 2007 19:24:49 GMT -5
Cool. And yeah, I think this should 'stop'. Because you keep starting this knowing how it's going to end. I'm not a know it all and I never pretended to be. But when I make an assured statement, I do it with complete confidence. If you don't like it... you need to know: You Don't Have To.
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Post by tsmooth31 on Sept 27, 2007 19:29:18 GMT -5
thats fine..but dont act is if your the only one who knows what you are talking about..i never heard of any1 else in the world who would let a stranger make a decision for them
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Post by lazario on Sept 27, 2007 19:33:50 GMT -5
dont act is if your the only one who knows what you are talking about.. What do you mean? You say all you do is think, you're using your 'opinion'. I use opinions too, but sometimes I use facts as well. i never heard of any1 else in the world who would let a stranger make a decision for them Are you an idiot? I ALREADY SAID 1 HUNDRED FUCKING MILLION TIMES that I did research. I used over a DOZEN trustable horror sites, way more reliable than the IMDb, PLUS I saw the trailer. I put 2 and 2 together. I KNOW WHAT WORKS FOR ME. And right now it seems like you're saying You are better than Me. How can you be when you keep ignoring what I'm saying?
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Post by tsmooth31 on Sept 27, 2007 20:22:59 GMT -5
^^ so you let other people make a decison for you...i dont care how many sites you looked up..or how much "reasearch" you did..point still is you let other people make your decision..im not saying any1 knows more or is better..im not like you i dont do that..no1 else here does..me and dave dont always agree..he liked TCM and i didnt..but he doesnt question how well i know movies..its just dumb when you try and tell me a movie is bad based on "reasearch" you did..if you havent seen the movie dont give me your opinion because all your doing is taking a buch of dumbass critics reviews..guys who prob dont know ther head from there ass.
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Post by lazario on Sept 28, 2007 11:27:11 GMT -5
The entire second season of Masters of Horror has been dramatically weaker than the first. 99% of every single person who has seen both has stated this, everyone that is who can online. Do you understand that? You can't argue that no matter how hard you try.
Now, with that information, all the people online who reviewed both seasons listed either Pro-Life, Valerie On the Stairs, or The Damned Thing as the worst episode of that season. The majority still says Pro-Life. So, based on this piece of information, I read reviews, browsed, scanned, and just looked at ratings after the first few reviews.
If that many people agree Pro-Life sucked, it sucked. And you can go on and on about how stupid they must be that they don't agree with you, but you're wrong. They're not stupid. They're very smart. And they care about the genre. So they're not only smart, but they care. I know- I made sure they weren't all just idiots who pop-off reviews like they know something. They actually know. And even the ratings of the lesser critics who have smaller boards feel the exact same way. So really, almost everyone agrees it's not just a terrible episode, but the very worst of the season.
THAT IS A LOT OF INFORMATION TO TRY AND IGNORE. You keep trying. I'm actually going to do the smart thing.
Besides, I know the 2nd season is weak and have to agree with them based on seeing The Screwfly Solution, which along with Family and The Black Cat, is one of the best received, reviewed, and most liked episode of that season, which stunk. And most of the reviews said it wasn't very good but still better than most of the season. And I've also seen almost all of the episode trailers (except Washingtonians, Valerie, Ice Cream, V Word). All of them look absolutely terrible. Except Family, which coincidentally got excellent reviews. And Dream Cruise looks good, but I won't know until I see it.
I've also seen all of the 1st season and those critics were right about almost every single episode there too. Keep telling me I'm wrong - BUT I KNOW WHAT I'M DOING AND TALKING ABOUT. I have experience backing up my proof.
And you want to keep disputing it just because you "liked the episode" / movie? Well, let me give you the rest of the information I have... on you: You don't think The Texas Chainsaw Massacre '74 is a masterpiece and you think Squirm was a bad movie. So, based on what You (who thinks those things just mentioned) say... I should not trust the Majority of people online, and instead should trust You (who thinks those things just mentioned) and the IMDb just because they agree with You?
And still you ignore the fact that IMDb voters can vote on movies whether or not they've seen them not to mention the fact that IMDb is a GENERAL MOVIES site, not a Horror site?
Sorry, the evidence still supports the argument that Pro-Life sucks. Regardless of what you think.
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Post by tsmooth31 on Sept 28, 2007 16:23:13 GMT -5
^^ and do you realize i dont give a shit about reviews??? i have seen most of both seasons and season 2 was much better..it had a few great episodes in family. prolife and right to die...and a few really good with sounds like and washingtonians..just stop talkking to me about reviews because i only care about my view of the movie..not some asshole i dont know..and about imdb like i said in the other topic..i dont mean the actua number score..which yes is very flawed...i mean the people that actually take time to write the reviews..go look there..theres plent of very good reviews for pro-life and every other episode..so you lose face it..its pathetic how you pick and choose reviews to make your point..if you say its bad and i say its good..you will take all your bad reviews and have an excuse for my good ones..like they didnt see it???yea some1 is gonna take time just to right a fake review for imdb..get over yourself..you are wrong..wronggggg..and i know you cant deal with being wrong..every masters of horror episode got 50/50 reviews and you have to deal with it..if we are gonna go by reviews then we are gonna count every review not just the idiots you worship..season 2 is better then 1..you know why because i saw most of them and made a judgement based on my opnion..i didnt read some text written by some1 else on the episode.
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