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Post by lazario on Aug 7, 2008 15:32:50 GMT -5
at the end of the episode when she cut off his head and that was the big twist i almost laughed out loud i thought it was so dumb. anyway that's neither here nor there. You're right. Because it was a good ending. Twist or not.
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Post by shunty on Aug 7, 2008 16:19:37 GMT -5
well thank you for intelligently discussing it with me. you never fail to amaze.
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Post by lazario on Aug 7, 2008 17:11:27 GMT -5
Your comment in the quotation above was equally as intelligent. I thought you'd like it.
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Post by shunty on Aug 7, 2008 19:09:54 GMT -5
why thank you kind sir. it is rather large now that you mention it.
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Post by lazario on Aug 7, 2008 19:11:38 GMT -5
What are you talking about?
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Post by shunty on Aug 7, 2008 19:23:13 GMT -5
funny, i feel like i say that to you quite often.
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Post by lazario on Aug 7, 2008 19:46:02 GMT -5
Are you okay?
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Post by piggsy on Aug 8, 2008 23:10:56 GMT -5
The Matrix (1999)
Yes, I know I'm nine years late. I just finished my first viewing of The Matrix, and I'm blown away. I really don't know what else to say, so I'll go ahead and give it my rating...
10/10
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Post by lazario on Aug 9, 2008 8:48:38 GMT -5
I couldn't even FINISH that piece of shit. Seriously, the CGI was the best thing about it. I don't know many people who like Keanu Reeves that much, and again- he's not even the worst thing about it. Every scene is annoying. Every thing that happened was stupid. This is a signature argument for some movies' sole reason for existing that they have huge budgets and are loud and flashy. The characters were boring and all the movie had was action. I found ZERO entertainment in that stupid turkey of a movie. It falls right in the catagory of Michael Bay's shitfests. I'm surprised Bay didn't have his hands all over this thing too.
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Post by malbowski13 on Aug 9, 2008 10:47:13 GMT -5
I liked the 1st one. Stealing energy or whatever from comatose people and having them exist in a made-up reality was a neat idea. 2 and 3 didn't do it for me though.
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Post by lazario on Aug 9, 2008 12:23:43 GMT -5
However good the idea might have been, the filmmakers forgot how many fucking movies we already have with a group of hotshot one-liner-spouting troups/armies of this, that, and the other sort... They buried whatever idea they had in boring action and sci-fi scenes. Plus, there were no character to care about. Just blank slate People running around while the camera speeds up and...
Come on. I'm I the only one who notices when a movie is just like every other one coming out?
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Post by tsmooth31 on Aug 9, 2008 17:21:23 GMT -5
i agree with everything laz said about matrix, i too couldnt finish it
as for me i just watched stuart gordons new movie Stuck, basically its about a girl that hits a guy and he gets stuck in her windsheild and she leaves him there, its hard to talk about the movie without giving spoilers, but i will say it was OK, not bad but not great, it started out really good but then gradually got worse and even started to get cheesy, my main prob was parts of it seemed very unrealistic and some of the characters made some very dumb choices which really annoyed me, but like i said i still think its worth at least a view
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Post by lazario on Aug 9, 2008 18:02:13 GMT -5
i agree with everything laz said about matrix, i too couldnt finish it Thank GOD. But I don't know if you like action or sci-fi movies. I understand a lot of people who like those kinds of movies will like stuff like this. I have no problem with that. But people have really talked this movie up like it's some kind of brilliant independent film, intellectual, smart... No. It's just a flashy piece of high-budget trash. And from what I remember (and I watched over an hour I think), most of it is just a group of people making one-liners. Sort of like Aliens or Near Dark or Twister or... come to think of it, anything with Bill Paxton in it. Like Virtual-Reality gamer types that dressed up in suits and then of course there were a couple of quiet black people who barely talked and wore sunglasses. Stuart Gordon's stuff is very hard for me to take. I have a huge problem with a lot of the choices he makes. Especially in Dreams in the Witch-House, Re-Animator, and Fear Itself: Eater. I've grown to appreciate Dolls a little more, but even that film can't decide what it wants to be. I really want to see Dagon and From Beyond - but I would have to blind-buy those movies and I'm afraid if I don't like them, it'll be a waste of money and both DVDs are way too expensive.
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Post by shunty on Aug 9, 2008 18:51:34 GMT -5
I love Stuart Gordon! He rarely makes a great movie, but me always makes a movie that is GREAT entertainment. Also laz, Dagon is one of my favorites of his. It also has one of the most violent scenes i've ever seen, at least as bad as the castle freak rape scene.
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Post by lazario on Aug 9, 2008 19:07:08 GMT -5
i just watched the much talked about Street Trash. I've gotta say i didn't get the hype. i thought it was pretty damn terrible from the writing to the acting. trust me there is a difference between troma and street trash. there is such a thing as good bad and also just plain bad. i'm gonna pull a laz and say it just sucked! That is a fact! just watch it already laz. I just finished it 1 hour ago. And I watched part of the documentary on the movie, The Meltdown Memoirs, and... Johnathan Demme, director of The Silence of the Lambs (winner of an Oscar for Best Picture of the Year!!) raved about it, saying: "Street Trash rules on all the right levels. It's funny and gross and mortifying and frightening, and loaded with talent." George A. Romero, Wes Craven, and Tom Savini all also gave it what seems like fairly big praise. Now about what I thought about the movie... I was never honestly mad at the movie, like it seemed you were. The word that would most accurately describe my reaction to the movie is - confused. With good reason, I should say. First of all - the way the people talked in the movie, did anyone on Earth understand what the heck they were saying? Everyone was talking so fast, their words tripped all over themselves. The redheaded Vietnam psycho would yell and I couldn't hear anything he was saying. Then, all the cops, and that gray haired bum that walked in to the Viper shop... That was hands-down the worst scene in the film. The guy spent almost 2 minutes talking about nothing. And repeating himself. The only thing he said of any substance was "do you think I have it easy?" The most inept scene was the window-washer scene. I actually couldn't believe what I was seeing. I couldn't understand what the geeky guy was saying, then of course Vietnam-psycho starts screaming and I can't hear what he's saying, and then the editing completely went to hell. When he pulls the geeky guy out of the car and throws him into the windsheild. They edited that all-wrong. And then, my last big complaint is the "penis throwing" scene. That was just dumb. That's the one scene where I honestly turned my head away from the screen and thought to myself- "what the hell is going on here?" Then I turned my head back and watched the whole scene, all the time thinking, "I wish I hadn't just seen that." You're right when you say the writing is shit. It is. The characters are completely stupid too. There's nothing to like about anyone. There's no reason to think about any of the characters. Almost any scene with anyone talking is completely worthless. EXCEPT... For 3 scenes in the movie. Where, unquestionably, I think they stumbled onto something good in terms of writing... Well, I either thought it was funny or interesting or I just plain really liked what I saw. The first one, and naturally my favorite scene in the entire movie - is the Supermarket scene. That is pure comedy. I laughed my ass off! The other ones all involved the mafia restaurant owner and the wisecracking busboy / doorman. I was afraid when I saw the first 3 scenes of the mafia guy that they would just abandon the storyline at the end and not have a payoff. I love that the stoolpigeon guy not only lives, but is even talking about taking over for the mafia guy when he drinks the Viper. Were you correct when you said It's a Fact that Street Trash is a Bad Movie? Yes. You sure were! But a lot of bad movies had good things about them. And Street Trash is surprisingly a technical MARVEL. The camerawork is unbelievable! There's one shot during one of the last meltdowns where the camera spins in a complete vertical circle showing someone right-side-up, then another person completely up-side-down, then back to the first person right-side-up... It was AWESOME!!! Completely on-par with the stuff Sam Raimi did in the Evil Dead movies, only in Evil Dead, Sam did one shot as a one-quarter circle. Jim Muro does a full four-quarter circle! The movie also looks amazing in terms of art design and production design. There's a shot of the big Tire-Hut place where the camera moves up on that car (yellow? Taxi?) and you see these two big beams of light shining out of two spots and it looks amazing. And that shot where the Bum walks into the Ladies room door with the bricks on the side and you think it's a whole building, right? But then the camera pulls back and you see that it's a broken down building with just the door and some bricks left standing, then the bricks start to fall over. And the Vietnam-Psycho's flashbacks were awesome too. The big blue shots of smoke and the vampires who attacked him. And that great shot on the water with him in the foreground and the explosion in the background. Then, the special effects are incredible. The meltdown scenes were all great. Especially the toilet one. And they were funny too. I thought when the guy on the fire escape drank, that he was going to give it to the cat... That would have pissed me off, I won't lie. But he doesn't. And the scene where you thought the black guy was going to drink it but he didn't. I'm glad they didn't kill the black guy. He was the funniest person in the movie. And the film's use of color was great, too. Then, the music they used in the movie was excellent too. And generally speaking, the editing was very good. Every scene, no matter how bad, got my attention. The most offensive part of the movie for me was the scene where the Cop yells at the businesswoman after the guy has his face melted by the drippings off another victim. That really bothered me. The most disgusting part of the movie was either the "penis-throw" or the "sniffing dog" scene.
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Post by tsmooth31 on Aug 9, 2008 20:59:56 GMT -5
Thank GOD.
But I don't know if you like action or sci-fi movies. I understand a lot of people who like those kinds of movies will like stuff like this.
i do like action and scifi movies, not as much as horror but i do watch a fair amount of them, but like you said it was nothing more then a flashy piece of high-budget trash, after seeing so many good reviews i can easily say it is one of the most overated movies in the history of movies, the only good thing i can say about it was some of the cgi scenes were cool to watch, but they become repeptitive and i hate cgi, even if it looks good
as for stuart gordon dagon is a movie i have always wanted to see, while i agree his stuff isnt great i LOVED king of the ants, although that wasnt really horror
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Post by piggsy on Aug 9, 2008 22:07:44 GMT -5
I just finished watching Michael Mann's 1986 crime drama Manhunter.
Excellent and very gripping film. The acting is great, especially from Tom Noonan as the psychopathic killer, The Tooth Fairy. Brian Cox makes for a more realistic Lecter than Anthony Hopkins' portrayal in later films. I definitely wouldn't want to meet him in a dark alley. The music, hairstyles, and sets are all very 80's, but it never took me out of the movie.
Piggsy gives Manhunter an 8/10
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Post by shunty on Aug 10, 2008 1:36:31 GMT -5
to laz: wow that is what i call analyzing a movie. i myself just usually take movies at face value. so overall, did you like it or not?
to tsmooth: that is funny you should mention that movie, king of the ants is one of only two stuart gordon movies i haven't seen. the other one is fortress.
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Post by lazario on Aug 10, 2008 3:06:10 GMT -5
to laz: wow that is what i call analyzing a movie. i myself just usually take movies at face value. so overall, did you like it or not? Yeah I did. There were a couple of scenes I outright didn't like. But I was smiling most of the time. A lot of it was damn funny, and a lot of it was really stylish.
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Post by tsmooth31 on Aug 10, 2008 4:57:04 GMT -5
to tsmooth: that is funny you should mention that movie, king of the ants is one of only two stuart gordon movies i haven't seen. the other one is fortress.
being a gordon fan you should deff check out king of the ants then, i rented it a few years ago, i really wanna see it again, i need to just buy the damn dvd already
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