Best TV Show of Each Decade?

[lazario]

Your votes?


2000-2009 (so far)
Best: Scrubs
Best Runner-Up: Nip/Tuck

1990-1999
Best: Roseanne
Best Runner-Up: The Simpsons

1980-1989
Best: A Different World
Best Runner-Up: Designing Women

1970-1979
Best: The Jeffersons
Best Runner Up: Maude

1960-1969
Best: The Twilight Zone
Best Runner-Up: I Dream of Jeannie

1950-1959
Best: Alfred Hitchcock Presents
Best Runner-Up: The Three Stooges (shorts series)



One note about my picks... I didn't think very long about them. So, my list could change over time.

[maycanady]

2000-2009 (so far)
Best: Weeds
Best Runner-Up: American Dreams

1990-1999
Best: The Simpsons
Best Runner-Up: Boy Meets World

1980-1989
Best: The Golden Girls
Best Runner-Up: Punky Brewster

1970-1979
Best: All In The Family
Best Runner Up: The Jeffersons

1960-1969
Best: The Twilight Zone
Best Runner-Up: Bewitched

1950-1959
Best: I Love Lucy
Best Runner-Up: Alfred Hitchcock Presents

[tsmooth31]

1990 - 1999

best- walker texas ranger

best runner-up the wayans bros


gotta think about the rest

[lazario]

Only 2 of the TV shows on my whole list are shows I'd call favorites (Scrubs and Roseanne).

(Double Post)

[tsmooth31]

well for me best = favorite

i think thats how most people see it

[Evil Dave]

Here's mine, in no particular order:

2000's
Curb Your Enthusiasm
Deadwood
Chappelle's Show
Henry Rollins Show
Real Time with Bill Maher
Family Guy
That 70's Show
Arrested Development
The Sopranos
South Park
American Dad!
Lucky Louie
King of the Hill
Dan Rather Reports
Countdown w/ Keith Olberman

1990's
Dinosaurs
Newsradio
Roseanne
Tales from the Crypt
Politically Incorrect
The Simpsons
Seinfeld
Married with Children
Beavis & Butthead
Daria
Saturday Night Live
Mad TV
The George Carlin Show
Absolutely Fabulous

1980's
Alf
The Cosby Show
Cheers
Facts of Life
Night Court
Perfect Strangers
The Wonder Years
Werewolf
Saturday Night Live
Dear John

1970's
All in the Family
The Carol Burnett Show
Saturday Night Live
The Bob Newhart Show
Happy Days
The Jeffersons
M*A*S*H
The Mary Tyler Moore Show
Sanford and Son
Taxi
Rowan & Martin's Laugh In
Monty Python's Flying Circus

1960's
The Addams Family
The Munsters
Bewitched
Dick Van Dyke Show
Green Acres
Gunsmoke
Hogan's Heroes
I Dream of Jeannie

1950's
I Love Lucy
Leave it to Beaver
The Honeymooners



Some of these shows spanned different decades, but I did it all off the top of my head, so I tried to list 'em where I believed the majority of the show's run took place.

[lazario]

admin said:

well for me best = favorite

i think thats how most people see it

That's why Most People are not good enough to be even Half-Assed critics.

[tsmooth31]

no1 is good enough to be a critic...every1 has there own opinion so critics shouldnt even excist..which is why everyone of them is a moron

[lazario]

thehillshavedave said:

2000's
Chappelle's Show
That 70's Show


1990's
Tales from the Crypt
Seinfeld
Beavis & Butthead
Absolutely Fabulous


1980's
The Wonder Years


1970's
The Carol Burnett Show
Saturday Night Live
The Mary Tyler Moore Show
Rowan & Martin's Laugh In
Monty Python's Flying Circus


1960's
The Addams Family

Those are all shows that definitely would have crossed my mind if I had thought of them, but I'll admit it- my list was done very quickly.

Some of those I haven't seen - anything with Monty Python, Rowan & Martin, Mary Tyler Moore, Arrested Development, Curb y e.

And even though I absolutely hate The Wonder Years beyond the words to describe...I would never let that begrudge it's status as a legendary or great show that people loved and enriched their lives somehow. Even though when almost anyone talks about it, all they remember are the most crude or juvenile things about it - like the erections they say they got from that girl (Winny?) and the episodes about condoms or whatever.

A lot of those other shows (I've listed in quote) are either genius or damn good in one way or another. The Carol Burnette Show is in my mind one of the greatest 10 shows in the history of All Television. And, I also forgot The Muppet Show (that was the '70s too, wasn't it?). A great show that appeals equally to kids and adults. I loved it as a kid and I know a lot of people who liked it as adults back then.

[lazario]

admin said:

no1 is good enough to be a critic...every1 has there own opinion so critics shouldnt even excist..which is why everyone of them is a moron

Critics aren't morons - you are a moron if you think you see more, overall, than a critic does. You're just deluding yourself into thinking your opinion means as much to others as it does to yourself.

And by the way - if everyone's opinions about everything in a movie actually mattered, then people wouldn't have to STUDY to be: Actors, Directors, Writers, Producers, Make Up Effects Artists, Cinematographers, Wardrobe, Gaffers, Set Builders... in short, there would be no MOVIES if there wasn't a right and a wrong way to do something. If your opinion counted more than the people who know what's right and wrong about a movie... there would be no way to MAKE a movie.

[tsmooth31]

all critics are morons and dont see more then any1..i can pick apart a movie if i wanted to..i chose not to tho cuz it takes the fun away

and there is no wrong or right way..there are different ways..but not a wrong or right way

[lowkey]

Critics aren't morons - you are a moron if you think you see more, overall, than a critic does. You're just deluding yourself into thinking your opinion means as much to others as it does to yourself.

Argumentum ad verecundiam et ad hominem.

[lazario]

admin said:

all critics are morons and dont see more then any1..

Critics are not morons- saying that is the same as saying they don't know anything they're talking about. But you're only saying that because YOU don't know what they're talking about. Isn't that right?

I'm not saying everyone should pay attention to critics. But, be honest for once: you just don't like critics because they say a lot of things you don't like.

admin said:

i can pick apart a movie if i wanted to..i chose not to tho cuz it takes the fun away

That's what you think. But why would I watch movies, and talk about them... if it wasn't fun? Are you trying to say critics don't like what they do? Or... are you saying that critics make your sunny day a little cloudier?

admin said:

and there is no wrong or right way..there are different ways..but not a wrong or right way

Actually... you are both Wrong and Right about what you just said. There are different ways. That is true. But, there is also right and wrong. And the reason you don't think there is is because you don't know everything about ALL the Different Ways.

You're also wrong about Me saying that I do. I don't know everything. I never pretended to. You just say that because- you don't like what I'm often saying. But if you would try to listen to me, you would understand: When I Say I Know Something... I Make Sure I Know It.

That is why: you've never seen me talk about Mario Bava- haven't seen any of his movies. The Universal classic Monster Movies: haven't seen any of them. The Hammer Films: haven't seen any of them. '50s sci-fi flicks, Val Lewton, etc.

And you've also seen me say plenty of times that I like something. When I like something, I'm just talking about myself. I like SUSPIRIA because of the pretty colors. Does that make the movie a masterpiece? No. Does it play at least a small part in the movie being a masterpieces? Yes. Because no other film did that before Suspiria and used it to enhance and/or effect a completely surreal atmosphere.

I like it when a movie shows off a hot guys' body. But guess what? That's only AN ADDED PERK. It has nothing to do with what makes the movie good or bad. In fact... if anything, it makes the movie bad, not good. Because who gives a fuck about what I like? Nobody. That's why you have to separate good and bad from what you like - IF you're going to talk about what's good and bad about movies.



And that is my insight. I thought about it, there is intelligence, and a whole lot of TRUTH inside it. You can say what you want about it- but you can't tell me I'm wrong. That's like pointing at the day and saying it's night. It's not night, it's day.

[Evil Dave]

lazario said:

The Carol Burnette Show is in my mind one of the greatest 10 shows in the history of All Television. And, I also forgot The Muppet Show (that was the '70s too, wasn't it?). A great show that appeals equally to kids and adults. I loved it as a kid and I know a lot of people who liked it as adults back then.

Yep, I love watching re-runs of The Carol Burnette Show. Watching Harvey Korman, Carol Burnette, Vicki Lawrence, and the GREAT Tim Conway work together is some of the best television I've ever seen.

I can't believe I forgot about The Muppet Show! That was also some really great television. It definitely would have made my list if I had thought of it.

[tsmooth31]

laz you have no idea what the hell your talking about..i have seen prob more movies then any critic..deff more low budget..any1 can pick apart a movie and say what they liked and didnt like..its not like you have to have the "critic" label to do so..but i watch a movie for fun and entertainment so i chose not to..im sure most critics dont like there job..they do it to get paid..who the hell knows why you do it..stop acting like "critics" know or see more..because they dont..they just chose to pick it apart..while i could care less about that

[malbowski13]

My all time favorite show is Oz.I own all the seasons and have seen them all numerous times.Great acting and stories.Masters of Horror has given people something that has been missing since Tales From the Crypt.always meant to check out Deadwood and Rome as well.HBO rules.

[Evil Dave]

^^^ Oh man, can't believe I forgot about Oz. Definitely one of my favorite HBO series. For me, it's tied with The Sopranos and second to my favorite, Deadwood.

[lazario]

thehillshavedave said:

^^^ Oh man, can't believe I forgot about Oz. Definitely one of my favorite HBO series. For me, it's tied with The Sopranos and second to my favorite, Deadwood.

Always wanted to see Deadwood... Still waiting for re-runs on SOME non-pay channel. Damn it. Why does crap like The Sopranos and Desperate Housewives end up on cheap, non-pay channels and Deadwood, that might be good...

Seriously, I don't know why Deadwood hasn't been picked up by someone like USA or something.

admin said:

laz you have no idea what the hell your talking about..

I disagree. ;D

admin said:

i have seen prob more movies then any critic..

Come on, are you telling me you're as old as most of these critics? There is just something to be said for experience. They've had more time to see more movies than you have. Plus, do you know every critic personally? How do you know you've seen more movies than any critic?

I'm still talking about critics in general. I never said I knew any of them personally. I just know what it takes to be a critic. Not because I'm a great critic myself. Because I wouldn't defend critics without knowing whether or not they take themselves seriously, and why.

Yeah I know a lot of critics are stuffy, upturned nose, pompous types. But that's the only reason people don't like them. It doesn't mean their wrong. But then, there are also critics who are just like us. Inside. And they don't act like the Stereotype that gets perpetuated all the time. You have to separate the hype from the product in everything related to movies. The same goes with all aspects of the movie business. Including the critics and fans.

admin said:

..any1 can pick apart a movie and say what they liked and didnt like..its not like you have to have the "critic" label to do so..

Of course. But I never said that they do have to. Just that if you want to know something about movies, you have to learn technique. You have to be able to separate what you like and dislike from the movie. Most real critics can do that.

But yeah, critics are like anyone else. They can be wrong- we're all wrong from time to time. I was wrong about The Howling when I first saw it, several years ago, I thought it was bad. But that was because I didn't get it. Some movies are not made for some people. But I learned to put what I think aside, and look at it for what it really was. Now, not only do I see what's good about it... But I like some of it too.

So stop telling me I remove the fun out of watching a movie. I do have fun watching movies. And "being a critic," if that's what you think I am. Don't tell me I don't have fun. I'm here to tell you, I do.

admin said:

i watch a movie for fun and entertainment

Old news. Movies are more than just fun and entertainment. Games are for just fun and entertainment. Sex (should always be) for just fun and entertainment.

To say that movies are just fun and entertainment is to Not Understand All That They Are. They're art, sometimes they're serious, and they always enrich our lives. They are often an important part of our lives. In fact- if movies were just fun and entertainment... nobody would make them. Making a movie is hard work. Sometimes, it can put an unbelievable amount of stress upon a movie maker.

Anyway... I respect critics because they often have a great understanding of the quality that can go into a movie. They don't always get it the first time around. They're like any one of us, re-viewing sometimes shows them things they didn't see the first time.

admin said:

..im sure most critics dont like there job..

You think you're sure. But everything you've been saying so far signals that you don't know as much about critics as you think.

admin said:

they do it to get paid..

Wow! That means You can get paid for doing the same thing they do. Why don't You have that job?? I mean, you know, if just anyone can do it.

Not just anyone can be a critic. So therefore, the money is clearly not the only reason.

admin said:

..stop acting like "critics" know or see more..because they dont..

T, it's a case-by-case basis. Sometimes critics are wrong. But overall, they are trained to know a little more than the rest of us.

When a movie does something wrong, the critic is often trained to know what that is. Right from the making of the movie, on set. They can see sometimes the actor is wrong, the writer is wrong, the director is wrong. Something is too much, not enough... Do you think you know all that?? How? Where were you trained? How long do you study? How much do you think you see?

[Evil Dave]

lazario said:

Always wanted to see Deadwood... Still waiting for re-runs on SOME non-pay channel. Damn it. Why does crap like The Sopranos and Desperate Housewives end up on cheap, non-pay channels and Deadwood, that might be good...

Seriously, I don't know why Deadwood hasn't been picked up by someone like USA or something.

Yeah, you should check it out sometime. From top to bottom, it's some of the best pure acting I've ever seen. And the depiction of the time period is painstakingly spot on. It's just really well done. I don't think you'll be seeing it on cable anytime soon, as there's still an ongoing standoff between HBO and David Milch as to getting the three 2-hour movies done to end the series. Whether that'll ever happen is anyones' guess at this point, but Milch has said that he won't sign off on syndication rights until HBO ponies up the budget he wants to end the series. Not the biggest loss though, as I think the series would definitely suffer from being edited down for commercial television viewing. Seasons 1 - 3 are available on DVD though, so you might be able to find them for renting somewhere if you really want to check it out. I'd give you some links to active torrent files, but I know you're not into that.

[lazario]

Maybe if I ever get Netflix, I'll look that show up.