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Post by malbowski13 on Sept 8, 2008 18:32:38 GMT -5
Fuck, does this movie look good. It stars Chris Farley's brother as Michael Moore and also has James Woods, Leslie Nielsen, and ......
BILL O'REILLY! Finally, something worth seeing in the theater. Check the trailer on You Tube. Someday, maybe someday, I will learn to post links.
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Post by tsmooth31 on Sept 8, 2008 23:08:17 GMT -5
i will check it later, but i love Leslie Nielsen so will prob check it out regardless, just about any movie he is in is worth seeing, as long as he has a big enough part
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Post by shunty on Sept 9, 2008 1:00:55 GMT -5
haha, that looks terrible
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Post by lazario on Sept 9, 2008 9:21:29 GMT -5
Well... the humor of the film is clearly in need of an update. Women who look like men being lesbians? HA HA HA - wow, will surely have everyone rolling on the floor laughing. Sorry- it's been done to death. It's not funny. RETIRE this joke. It's stupid and offensive to people who like actual comedy. It's also hateful to lesbians. To say the least. And brainless.
The characterization of Michael Moore is stupid. He's one of the only people with the balls to actually use America's freedom of speech to say things people don't want to hear. Hugh Hefner and Larry Flynt have been doing the same basic thing, pushing our freedoms in our faces, for half a century and have inspired fewer spoofed characters.
Next - the title is stupid. Then, Bill O'Reilly called it a "wake up call" yet it's as realistic and true to real life as movies about talking animals. And the cast is suspiciously... more left than right. Dennis Hopper? The "Drug Movie" guy. Hello??? James Woods- is he conservative? I kinda doubt it. And Zucker should be smart enough to see that in the world of New Millennium politics- the right are the ones who need to be spoofed. Not the left.
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Post by shunty on Sept 9, 2008 12:03:49 GMT -5
dennis hopper is a republican actually. the fact that o'reilly recommended it makes me never wanna see it.
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Post by lazario on Sept 9, 2008 13:04:35 GMT -5
Well then that makes perfect sense. He made filthy drug movies because he's a goddamn hypocrite. All those Republican politicians do drugs in the privacy of their offices and homes and then preach that it's evil to everyone's faces.
If this movie is supposed to be some kind of parade of Republican actors and writers/directors - then all the more reason it's so full of bullshit. But why feel the need to attack the gay community too? Seriously, if by their assumptions we're all being lied to by the left, the gay community are victims of lies - but no, we're being attacked in that movie as though we were as bad as a guy making documentaries.
I guess the Zucker work on the Scary Movie series should have tipped us off to the fact that they've lost their touch. This further goes to show they've lost their fucking marbles too.
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Post by shunty on Sept 9, 2008 17:37:22 GMT -5
yeah. that's all i have to say.
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Post by malbowski13 on Sept 9, 2008 19:22:07 GMT -5
WOW! Where to start...
I think it is pretty fair to say that around 70% of real lesbians are manly in appearance or attitude.
I've never actually met a "bottom" or lipstick lesbian.
Do some digging on Moore. He does say some true things but he also fabricates news articles and gives phony facts. Look at Howard and Me, his breakthrough documentary. For one thing, he is not even from Flint,Michigan and he also did meet "Roger" twice. Why is that not in the movie? Could it be that "Roger" had answers Moore didn't want to hear? I'll say that he is a great editor though. He could pretty much show Laz saying he hates gays. If you want more Laz, I'll pick this lump of shit apart all day.
Maybe Zucker is tired of the constant bashing and wanted to mix it up a bit, whatever his personal beliefs. I don't see anyone talking shit about "W" by Oliver "I'm a nutcase" Stone. BTW, that whole cast and crew is pretty much liberal to the best of my knowledge.
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Post by shunty on Sept 10, 2008 0:00:11 GMT -5
i have done MUCH digging. moore hasn't fabricated any facts, he did grow up in flint (not born but who gives a shit). bill o'reilly is a real terrorist. he fills our hearts with hate and lies and laughs all the way to the bank. FUCK HIM
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Post by malbowski13 on Sept 10, 2008 5:50:10 GMT -5
Do phony articles count as fabricated facts?
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Post by lazario on Sept 10, 2008 14:28:33 GMT -5
I think it is pretty fair to say that around 70% of real lesbians are manly in appearance or attitude. I've never actually met a "bottom" or lipstick lesbian. Who fucking cares? That does not give anyone license to attack the gay community or lesbians. And we're only talking about your exposure and who you've met, anyway. Do some digging on Moore. He does say some true things but he also fabricates news articles and gives phony facts. Look at Howard and Me, his breakthrough documentary. For one thing, he is not even from Flint, Michigan and he also did meet "Roger" twice. Why is that not in the movie? Could it be that "Roger" had answers Moore didn't want to hear? I'll say that he is a great editor though. He could pretty much show Laz saying he hates gays. If you want more Laz, I'll pick this lump of shit apart all day. It doesn't matter anymore whether what Moore says is true. Not even liberals take him seriously anymore. The fact is - after all the hits he has taken, it hasn't phased him. He's still doing whatever he wants to do. I think that bothers you. But of course - that's just what I think. Maybe Zucker is tired of the constant bashing Again- "poor right"? They can defend themselves. And who gives a fuck if they get bashed? They're still ultra-corrupt bastards, are still in control, and are still leading us toward ultimate destruction. That ISN'T ENOUGH for them? For you? I'm sorry, but the only constant bashing the Right are getting is from a good number of pissed off Americans and some very intelligent foreign people who know the value of the news medium. And maybe Zucker did just loose his marbles. I don't see anyone talking shit about "W" by Oliver "I'm a nutcase" Stone. Is it out yet? First of all, when it comes out - just watch Fox News if you feel the movie needs to be bashed. Second of all, just search for the movie on Google, you'll find bashers. Third of all, how many people do you think are actually going to want to see either W or American Carol? Most people are T in that they don't give a fuck about politics. And Oliver Stone is not a nutcase. He's just painfully out of touch with the times. Unless W is going to be a comedy. |
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Post by shunty on Sept 10, 2008 19:06:03 GMT -5
w is about BUSH. EVREYONE knows he is the worst president in the history of the U.S. there is a big difference!
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Post by malbowski13 on Sept 10, 2008 19:49:44 GMT -5
How are they attacking the gay community? It's probably a 2 minute segment in a movie that parodies everything. I didn't snap when I seen the fat spartan in Meet The Spartans and they were joking about man-boobs or whatever.
My beef with Moore is that he influences simple people who after seeing one of his documentaries, think they are in the know. Pretty much conspiracy people who are obsessed with a "bogus" moon-landing or "Who really shot JFK?". He has some good things to say and has probably helped a lot of people. But if you have to plagerize and falsify facts to prove your point, then you are no better than the people who you say do this stuff on a regular basis. Like Al Franken, he also is very nauseating to listen to. I have seen Roger &Me, Bowling for Columbine, and Farenheit 9/11. I do want to watch Sicko as well. I am willing to listen to him but that doesn't mean I absorb everything he says like a sponge.
A few years ago, this Canadian couple were making a documentary on him.They were big fans and were following him around trying desperately to get an interview. When all was said and done, he wouldn't give them the time of day(a real man of the people). These weren't just people off the street either, I believe that one was a journalist for a major newspaper or something like that.
How is this for dirt? A few years back ol Mike had some problem at an airport. He is so against guns but thought it was okay to have his bodyguard try to get past security with a handgun during a commercial flight. Picking on Heston was real manly of him too.
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Post by tsmooth31 on Sept 11, 2008 4:39:47 GMT -5
dont you know by now mal, if anyone even mentions something gay accoridng to laz they hate gays and are bashing them, the guy has no self confidence which is why he bitches and cares what everyone else thinks and says
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Post by shunty on Sept 11, 2008 19:16:28 GMT -5
Charlton Heston is a piece of shit. He refused to not come to Littleton after Columbine. His is an NRA nut. Get all of the facts and think about them mal.
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Post by lazario on Sept 12, 2008 3:21:46 GMT -5
How are they attacking the gay community? It's probably a 2 minute segment in a movie that parodies everything. I didn't snap when I seen the fat spartan in Meet The Spartans and they were joking about man-boobs or whatever. Look, Mal, you're not a member of the gay community, so right away you need to take for granted I would know better than you what is and isn't an attack on the gay community. And what you said back there was not an education on lesbians, nor is it any truth of any kind. You seem to buy into this joke and believe that lesbians not only all look like that, but are all that stupid and gullible as well. Plus, Michael Moore can tell the difference between lesbians and men. So the joke is bullshit anyway. My beef with Moore is that he influences simple people who after seeing one of his documentaries, think they are in the know. Oh yeah. That's why John Kerry won the 2004 election. Right? Bullshit, Mal. People are not pissed off because he influences people. That's like saying movies make people do things that wouldn't normally do. Movies can't make people change their minds. It can only remind them of what they already think and feel. What people like you are pissed off about isn't that Moore's stuff make them think about politics - it's because people have these thoughts to begin with! That there are people out there who actually are liberals and agree with many liberal ideals. Deep down, you want everyone to be ignorant and go with the conservatives based on blind principles because the Right make you feel safe. But it's all an act. They're bullshitting because they want control. They want power and you give it to them. But how much love do you actually think you're getting in return from the Right? Think about that! I am willing to listen to him but that doesn't mean I absorb everything he says like a sponge. Neither do most people. A few years ago, this Canadian couple were making a documentary on him. They were big fans and were following him around trying desperately to get an interview. When all was said and done, he wouldn't give them the time of day (a real man of the people). These weren't just people off the street either, I believe that one was a journalist for a major newspaper or something like that. So? Why should that bother anyone? Part of making his documentaries have nothing to do with stopping to talk to other documentarians. And his attitude offscreen has nothing to do with the subjects of his films. Don't tell me the work he's doing is in any way affected by his attitude. Because he's not even the "biggest jerk" to his fans. Clearly you know nothing about Stephen King and Tom Savini. Do you have a problem with them just because they've been jerks to many of their fans? Does the work they do now amount to nothing just because of their off-set / real life attitudes? You can't say just because he's a jerk that he isn't still right about much of what he is saying in his documentaries. How is this for dirt? A few years back ol Mike had some problem at an airport. He is so against guns but thought it was okay to have his bodyguard try to get past security with a handgun during a commercial flight. Oh, don't give me this bullshit. Saying things like that is as ignorant as a person gets. Use your head - a celebrity who says they have a problem with unregistered guns killing children and American citizens thinking they all need to own guns makes sense. It's a simple fact = when guns are involved, the UTMOST RESPONSIBILITY is called for. They are not anti-gun. We're all sick and tired of the NRA always getting away with never giving a fuck about all the Columbines and Virginia Techs and since Columbine, there have been probably a dozen more school shootings for various reasons. Do they care? No. Plus they make sure all new potential laws protecting American citizens from this clearly out of control gun violence are shot down before there's even a chance for anyone to vote. Celebrities has access to information we don't get to see. And the reason they need protection is completely fucking clear. Don't pretend you don't see it. If you or I have guns and we give them up - we will not be shot immediately. I promise you Michael Moore and Rosie O'Donnell would be shot and killed within a day after their guards were let go or disarmed. So don't fucking ever even suggest for a second that WE are in more danger than they are. Because it's bullshit and untrue. Nor is it true that they deserve to die for speaking out for victims of gun violence. Are you honestly more pissed off that some people want to protect future victims of gun violence than you would be if some piece of shit shot you and because of the laws would get away with it? Do you honestly think just because certain celebrities speak out against gun violence - they deserve to die for it? Because that's insanity right there. You think the left deserve to die for the cause - so name me ONE conservative / Rightie Martyr for their Causes! One person actually suffering on the Right for what they believe in? And don't give me this McCain-Palin bullshit either - they deserve every last bit of criticism they get. dont you know by now mal, if anyone even mentions something gay accoridng to laz they hate gays and are bashing them, the guy has no self confidence which is why he bitches and cares what everyone else thinks and says T, you're the most ignorant person on this board. You always have been and you most likely always will be. Nothing you say about me will ever stick. But we know you're going to keep trying - what I say bothers you so much because you're insecure and pathetic. Plus you're a racist who says Mexicans are bad just because of how they look and smell. I'm sure if people judged you based on how you look and smell, no one would want to be around you. w is about BUSH. EVREYONE knows he is the worst president in the history of the U.S. there is a big difference! Well, I kind of disagree. The reason I say kind of is that most people don't know whether or not he were part of the people who devised 9/11. Because yeah the terrorist-invaded planes crashed into the towers, but someone was in charge of rigging them from the inside with explosives. Those people might have been connected to the W. Bush Administration. If so, that would be bad. But my vote for worst is Reagan's administration. It's because of their homophobia that AIDS spread to where it is today. In America today, single women have the highest rate among people to get AIDS. Black people are a higher risk group than gays as well. Because of the Reagan administration's thinking that only gays would suffer from the disease, he let it become the plague it became through into the 1990's and today. The administration refused to comment on it for YEARS in the media and no one in our government put up any money for the much needed testing. Not to mention his war on drugs was not handled well. More family members of drug dealers who had nothing to do with the actual drug dealing were imprisoned than the dealers. They were imprisoned in exchange for confessions, evidence leading the police to other dealers and users, and completely innocent people were incarcerated and held for decades because of it. Not to mention the conservative stronghold over American culture in the 80's which empowered the Moral Values psychos. There wouldn't be people like W. Bush today had Reagan not have paved the way for a President elected just because people liked his character, his quaintly boarish behavior, and his playful senility. |
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Post by shunty on Sept 12, 2008 20:49:52 GMT -5
reagan was horrible no question, but the way i see it, the bush administration has screwed the country over so bad that there might not ever be a way of fixing it. the entire rest of the world hates our guts, the national debt is now 9.684 trillion and RISING, we have no way outta the war and the rich have gotten richer to an extreme degree.
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Post by lazario on Sept 13, 2008 6:19:04 GMT -5
Okay, but that we might be able to survive for awhile. Which President killed more people? I think AIDS in America has wiped out more people than 9/11 and the Iraq war combined. Of course, I could be wrong... Plus, like I say- I think we have Reagan to blame for the Bushes. I really do.
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Post by shunty on Sept 13, 2008 19:32:19 GMT -5
either way, this entirely far-right-wing made movie isn't helping. i think we can agree on that.
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Post by tsmooth31 on Sept 14, 2008 2:32:13 GMT -5
I'm sure if people judged you based on how you look and smell, no one would want to be around you.
i got the hoes on me like flies on shit
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