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Post by malbowski13 on Aug 27, 2008 19:49:28 GMT -5
I'm sure you all have heard the latest from this "ex"-whore. During a concert, she was flashing John McCain's pic along with other celebs like Hitler and Mugabe,something like that. Then she flashes Obama's picture with Ghandi and John Lennon.
I'm speechless. Whatever your personal thoughts may be, I'm sure we all can admit that that was a disgusting and insulting picture show. I preferred this broad when she was just a pig, anyone else?
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Post by piggsy on Aug 27, 2008 21:05:59 GMT -5
Really? Man, what's the matter with celebrities?! They always have to be controversial.
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Post by lazario on Aug 28, 2008 3:19:17 GMT -5
I heard about this and I thought it was a bit extreme. At this point, she's kind of still riding on all the stuff she did on the Confessions tour with... whatever she did on the Cross. But, hardcore liberals are not happy with McCain right now. They believe and maybe he gave them just cause to, that he will not only keep Iraq going, but he'd be only more than happy to start something in Iran and wherever else he feels like invading. Madonna's having kind of a mid-life crisis right now. I mean... just look at this album cover, it's kind of scary:  I think she turns 50 sometime this month, in August. And it's been well-documented that her record sales have been weak ever since 2002 when she stopped making money on Music, her last really big album. There's been a shift in the kind of pop music young people want to hear. They want to hear stuff produced by The Neptunes who do this American techno-hip hop hybrid. Songs like "Milkshake" for Kelis which was a humungous hit, and songs for Gwen Stefani's solo albums, and a lot of hip-hop artists. And if it's not Neptunes, it's stuff produced by Missy Elliot (like Tweet and Ciara) or Timbaland (Nelly Furtado and Aaliyah). Madonna's music just hasn't done well the more Euro-influenced it's been. The singles for her albums American Life and Confessions on a Dancefloor failed to get the same attention as Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Jessica Simpson, and Mandy Moore. Plus, since Madonna's huge international craze with Music, Beyonce Knowles blew up, and the trend is for white girls to cross genres. Like Pink or Aguilera, who often do black-sounding, hip-hop inspired material like "Dirty" and "Get This Party Started." To put it shortly, there isn't enough room for Madonna to compete with the young girls anymore. When she did Music, she only had to compete with "bubble gum teen pop" and it was still the era of Britney Spears being all cute and "innocent," Christina Aguilera wasn't talking like she thought she was a black girl, Jennifer Lopez was still famous for music instead of her huge ass and Ben Affleck and the Sean Combs club shooting... And she was of course, still riding on the huge international success of Ray of Light. Culture has become this really sick thing where the mainstream wants everything to be exactly the same. Nobody cares who's white or black, just as long as it all sounds like hip-hop. There's no more Latin explosion. And of course, it's not just music, it's everything. Everything is the same. TV, movies, music. Is there any difference between anything coming out? So she changed her music to sound like all the garbage coming out now. It's also trendy to be politically volatile. With Michael Moore and Oliver Stone planning new movies to slam W. Bush, Kanye West's famous Bush slur, blogs... You know. But McCain is a Republican. It doesn't matter if he's better than Bush, he'll fuck up. He'll conform to the psycho standards of the murderously evil Republicans running the country now. And the election is already rigged. It'll be McCain. Madonna is just exercising her right to bash the bastard because deep down everyone knows this thing is rigged. Culture has reached a fever pitch of selfishness and at least Madonna is doing something socially positive. Which she always does. Nothing "cunt"ish about that. |
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Post by tsmooth31 on Aug 28, 2008 3:22:03 GMT -5
ehhh, i have never been a fan of her, plus i dont like obama so it really doesnt bother me much, and im sure its gonna happen anyway.... black president... as soon as he fucks up or pisses some1 off some redneck will snipe his ass
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Post by lazario on Aug 28, 2008 4:33:43 GMT -5
Why don't you like him?
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Post by tsmooth31 on Aug 28, 2008 5:35:35 GMT -5
i just dont like how he talks and the things he says, and no its not cuz hes black, i could really care less about the skin color of the president, honestly the main reason is i just dont trust him, something about the guy has always rubbed me the wrong way,
the other thing is he is always singles out black people, he is always talking about black groups of people, that right there is what keeps racism alive, there is no need to single out black people, there should be no color, because white or black it really doesnt make a difference nowadays, the only reason people think it does is because some groups of blacks like to bitch about it, sure there are always gonna be racist people but some still act as if we are in the days of slaves
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Post by lazario on Aug 28, 2008 6:44:59 GMT -5
i just dont like how he talks and the things he says, and no its not cuz hes black, i could really care less about the skin color of the president, honestly the main reason is i just dont trust him, something about the guy has always rubbed me the wrong way. Well it appears that right now, it's down to 2 guys for the Presidency of the United States. We could get a Democrat who cares about America and might need a little time to understand exactly how to run the country. Or we could get a Republican who only cares about money, says he cares about religion, and runs this country based on the corruption of the current government, deciding to change laws based on what the conservatives want, and potentially get us into more wars... It's your choice. Vote for the guy who'll rub you the wrong way, or the guy who will further try to rub America out altogether. the other thing is he is always singles out black people, he is always talking about black groups of people, that right there is what keeps racism alive It's not "keeping racism alive," it's responding to the fact that he is a dark-skinned man will affect him getting votes. It's the truth. It will. You need to accept that, since I know you will probably have a hard time with it. there is no need to single out black people, there should be no color, because white or black it really doesnt make a difference nowadays In a perfect world, color wouldn't make a difference. But this is the real world, T. It does make a difference. People still recognize color. You do. If you didn't, you wouldn't even know what COLOR the groups are that you keep claiming are "bitching" and complaining. the only reason people think it does is because some groups of blacks like to bitch about it, sure there are always gonna be racist people but some still act as if we are in the days of slaves You sound paranoid, T. Nobody is acting like "we are in the days of the slaves." Be realistic. For once. |
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Post by lowkey on Aug 28, 2008 11:31:29 GMT -5
To be honest I don't even know why she'd classify John Lennon with Ghandi, let alone Obama. Lennon was just a pretentious pop star, who was overrated the moment he first stepped foot in the US. Ghandi was truly a great human being, and not just some bored, rich dude trying to throw money into a cause, so he can feel good about himself. At least Lennon never had a hybrid Lexus flown to him by private jet to demonstrate how environmentally conscious he is, like Sir Paul recently did.
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Post by tsmooth31 on Aug 28, 2008 17:54:08 GMT -5
laz you must not get out enough, i said there will always be racism, but its not nearly as bad as everyone makes it out to be, a black man does a crime, and everyone cries out racism, it has become ridiculous, everyone has to start to realize that there will always be groups of racist people but for the most part black and white is just a skin color and nothing more
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Post by malbowski13 on Aug 28, 2008 23:06:18 GMT -5
Jon Voight listed, in his letter that got him black-balled from Hollywood, 4 major influences on Obama's life and beliefs. One was Rev.Wright who is a black bigot and hates "whitey". If you want a socialist society, by all means vote for this man. Voight was black-balled for speaking the truth and that makes me sad,embarrassed,and angry all at once. Canadian or not, your future affects us both.
I say to any hater of America that is a citizen, leave. Go live in the middle east or Africa or some other shithole for awhile. See if the freedom you have at home is not as liberating as fighting on a daily basis. See if some embezzeling from higher-ups is so bad compared to genocide or a dictator telling you when and where to piss. I'm sorry friends, but I have fucking had it with nay-sayers,shit-starters,flag-burners,finger-pointers,etc. The systems that we both have are not perfect, but they are the best we got. I only wish we could all work together to ensure a good future for our families and children. I haven't got much but I am thankful everyday that I was born
in this country where I can make it or not on my own.
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Post by lazario on Aug 29, 2008 17:56:57 GMT -5
TALK ABOUT PARANOID! laz you must not get out enough You've been trying to sell that tired line for months. But you're the one who wants to believe every black person is still pissed about slavery. Not Obama, not most "black groups," and hey- how come you've never put any evidence on the table to back yourself up? No links, no news stories, no names, no nothing. You just keep saying "black groups are bitching" and "complaining." That doesn't make you right. It never did and it never will. i said there will always be racism, but its not nearly as bad as everyone makes it out to be Again, there is no "everyone" making anything out to be anything. You're imagining things. Because you're paranoid. a black man does a crime, and everyone cries out racism, it has become ridiculous, everyone has to start to realize that there will always be groups of racist people but for the most part black and white is just a skin color and nothing more Again, T, you're the one recognizing skin color. You're the only one here bitching that A COLOR GROUP is saying things you don't like. And again, just because you say something over and over again doesn't make it true. Cough up some proof. |
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Post by malbowski13 on Aug 29, 2008 19:24:09 GMT -5
I was half-cut when I wrote that so maybe I went in a little gung-ho.
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Post by tsmooth31 on Aug 29, 2008 19:27:12 GMT -5
you clearly never have any idea as to what you are talking about and just bullshit your way around things untill you are right in your twisted little demented head, which is why 90% of the time its not worth arguing or even having a conversation with you
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Post by lazario on Aug 30, 2008 9:38:35 GMT -5
you clearly never have any idea as to what you are talking about and just bullshit your way around things untill you are right in your twisted little demented head, which is why 90% of the time its not worth arguing or even having a conversation with you T - you have racist views. The fact that you're so defensive about it proves it. If you didn't have racist views, you would GIVE IT A REST already about "black groups bitching" and "complaining." Nobody is controlling you. Nobody is telling you what to do. So stop fucking telling us there's a problem with black groups. IT'S ALL IN YOUR RETARDED IDIOTIC HEAD, you dumb prick! And you have never given us proof, so just shut the fuck up, you hateful, moronic LOSER! |
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Post by tsmooth31 on Aug 30, 2008 19:06:56 GMT -5
the proof is all around us, just watch the news, i guess living in alaska you dont get to really know whats going on in the world tho girly man
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Post by lazario on Sept 5, 2008 16:49:55 GMT -5
Again - I'm more of a man than you ever will be. And just saying "it's on the news" isn't proof, you loser.
If you watch Fox News, you'll see lots of lies.
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Post by tsmooth31 on Sept 5, 2008 20:49:09 GMT -5
you,a man  |
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Post by lazario on Sept 6, 2008 5:38:37 GMT -5
Yep. And I'm all grown-up too. I'm not living in fantasy-land like some retards who think Pro-Life and Saw are great movies.
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Post by tsmooth31 on Sept 6, 2008 19:54:02 GMT -5
yes im living in a fantasy land because i like a movie, you are the one in the fantasy land where you think every opinion you have is a fact
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Post by lazario on Sept 7, 2008 9:50:17 GMT -5
T, you keep saying that over and over again. But guess what I keep saying over and over again? That SOME of my opinions are facts. Like that people are human beings, we need air to breathe, we live on Planet Earth. Those are facts that happen to be opinions of mine. I like Chinese Food. Is it great? Maybe. It's not a fact, it's an opinion. Sometimes I believe in God, sometimes not. Is he real? Maybe. Just because I believe somedays doesn't make it a fact. It's an opinion.
But there ARE standards by which a movie is or is not well-made. I understand most of these standards. You don't. I care. You don't. So since you don't care - quit trying to tell me off and prove you're right. Just get over the fact that sometimes I'm right. It's not ABOUT opinion - I'll tell you when it's opinion. Okay?
When the horror genre gets back on its' feet, it will be ABOUT opinions again. But it's in deep shit right now, so I have to make it about Facts. If You Don't Like That, Don't Reply. But don't even think about replying to insult me. That's stupid and childish. And if you don't care about the horror genre like I do, you can take a hike anyway.
And if there's any chance to get back on topic...
1. Madonna isn't a cunt. That's my opinion.
2. She's a good person who means well. That's a fact.
3. She's having a mid-life crisis. That's probably true.
4. She's doing a lot of things to cave-in to the mainstream. That's a fact.
5. She might come back down to reality someday. It depends on where the mainstream goes and if there's enough time for us to fix the political damage that's been done to this country. It's not the fault of people like Madonna that we're in so much trouble. She's not a politician. She's just an angry American. She ain't the only one, nor is she in a minority - That Is Also a Fact.
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