Post by lazario on Aug 14, 2007 18:52:12 GMT -5
lowkey said:
I think it was supposed to be serious, but it's very hard to take it seriously. I think more people would be forgiving of it, if Jason had of, I don't know...taken Manhattan instead of a boat on it's way to Manhattan, for the majority of the movie. I will give 8 two things though; it's not Jason goes to Hell, or Jason X. It's not the worst of the series, but it's high in the running for most disappointing.I wish people would stop picking on it just for that reason. But...I'm not exactly holding my breath. I hate when people put so much emphasis on Advertising. And maybe some of that was the director's fault because that's the title he went with. But maybe the studio wouldn't let him change it. Does he let that phase him? Hell no. When he talks about the movie, he does it completely unapologetically. And I for one think that's good. Because the movie is not bad. It's just different. And I happen to think that was a very good kind of different. Because the acting in the film is not only good itself, but it's better than any of the previous sequels. There are no lines that are so bad, you want to reach into the movie and punch the living hell out of the person who said it (unlike parts 1, 4, 6, 9, and FvJ, especially). People really underestimate what a redeeming quality that is in a horror movie.
As for why I like it so much... I have this thing about stylish horror movies in water. I liked the fact that it took place on a cruise ship. It was also well-photographed and edited. The music was suspenseful (enough). I also loved Open Water. I think people have this aversion to horror movies in the water or on boats (and Jaws was an action-comedy-thriller). I think it's subconscious sea-sickness, personally.
lowkey said:
If you are fond of it though, that's cool.Sure am. I thought the film had a lot of integrity. Especially in its' story. It treated Rennie like a real person with a character-arch. In fact, it actually treated most of the women in the movie as people, and not just people the audience wanted to see naked. When Tamara dies, her nudity is a very ugly thing to see. The only shot you see her naked- she's going flying headfirst into a mirror and she does not look flattering at all. I happen to find that very ambitious for a person making Friday the 13th Part VIII. And when people drop dead, it's not treated as amusing. It's treated as harsh and unappealing.
lowkey said:
I rather like parts 3 and 7, and a lot of people really despise them as much. Especially 3 and for very good reasons. 3 was basically one big 3D gimmickThose are my 2 other favorites from this series. Part VII in a way, is the quintessential (ultimate) Friday the 13th film. And the beginning of the serious elements in the Friday the 13th movies. I'd say it begins with an interesting heroine with an emotional / psychological trauma, and also has the mechanical Fred Mollin score to make it a little more robotic. I have to say, that really aids in giving Jason a real Terminator-like quality. Part 3 was without exception, the most fun of the movies. And I think the 3-D helped that. With or without the glasses on, I think the movie is stylish and fun. And the Harry Manfredini score really goes all-out on this one. And I also think, without the summer camp setting, they finally shagged-off the lame expositional stuff the story feels it needs to set-up to have a believable summer camp plot. The movie also has more atmosphere and impressive camerawork than parts 1 and 2.
lowkey said:
and a platform for Dana Kimmell to push her fundamentalist, moral crusade against horror and porn.Did you hear her on the Friday the 13th Part 3 audio commentary? I think it's safe to say she's mellowed quite a bit.
lowkey said:
Part 5 gets a lot of hate too, but I think it's almost as good as part 4, it just doesn't technically involve Jason.I like part V a lot, actually. I have to say I liked the way they moved the film out into sort of farm-country. Because the barn scene in this film looks a little better than in part 3. It's in a way, a lesser version of parts 3 and 4, but it has a lot of little things that make it very entertaining. It just failed to make the Jason impostor look good. He was wearing this ugly blue uniform and the back of his head looked too pink. Even the mask looked cheap. That's really why I think no one else can be Jason but Jason. But I loved the final scene at the hospital and the death scene involving that strap and the tree trunk. Not to mention the great usage of meat-cleavers.
lowkey said:
6 while good for a Friday the 13th sequel, made him supernatural instead of just a homicidal freak. This is really where the series started to take a nosedive imo. Part 6 should have been a crazy, escaped mental patient Tommy wearing the mask, instead of further adventures of Freddy from Return of the Living Dead.I guess I wasn't impressed either with how unstoppable he became. But in a way, it really does give him an edge over Michael Myers. And made him different from Michael Myers. Otherwise, he's just Michael Myers in the woods at summer camp by a lake with a hockey mask on. And... there's no denying his zombie-faces look excellent in terms of make-up FX! At least, until the miserable Jason Goes to Hell.