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Post by Evil Dave on Aug 4, 2007 5:03:34 GMT -5
I've seen a lot of movies that were so bad they're good. A lot of these movies never had a chance to be riffed by Joel/Mike & the Bots because the licenses to acquire and show them was simply too expensive for our friends on the Satellite of Love. So I'm starting this thread for us to list movies you've seen that would have been great riffing fodder. Knock yourselves out!
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Post by Evil Dave on Aug 4, 2007 5:34:25 GMT -5
Up first on my list is the movie known simply as "Trog" (1970). Description: Anthropologist Dr. Brockton (Joan Crawford) unearths a troglodyte (an Ice Age 'missing link" half-caveman, half-ape) and manages to domesticate him - until he's let loose by an irate land developer (Michael Gough) to go on a rampage and kidnap a little girl. One of the most absolute ri-goddam-diculous movies you will ever see. How the late, great Joan Crawford climbed on board for this is beyond me. You absolutely must do a google image search for this movie to understand how hilarious the "trog" actually looks. Scenes I'd love to see riffed: --The ridiculous scenes where Crawford tries to teach Trog to play with toy robots and dolls (This is blue. blue trog, blue. say blue trog. this is blue, b-l-u-e) --Trog's agitated reaction to hearing rock'n'roll (no words to describe this) --Trog battling with a German Shepherd (Joan's non-reaction coupled with the obviously fake dog) --Joan's 5 minute rant about how Trog is harmless because he's a herbivore; then proceeds to feed him nothing but raw fish and rubber lizards the entire film - Would've been a great running gag --An excruciatingly long and cheesy animated dinosaur battle which makes Gumby look like 'Jurassic Park'! I recommend everyone go out and watch this movie. The actual movie is still absolutely hilarious! Some random trivia: --Trog's director went on to later direct The Creeping Flesh. --This is early Hollywood legend Joan Crawford's final movie appearance. --If you look closely at the old Pepsi machines used in the film, you can clearly see that it's filled with bottles of vodka instead of Pepsi. This is more than just odd, as Joan Crawford was widely rumored to be a heavy alcoholic. --Keep an eye out for an early appearance by cult actor David Warbeck, who went on to appear in Hammer's 'Twins Of Evil', Russ Meyer's 'Blacksnake!' and Fulci's 'The Beyond'. -- The budget was so tight that Joan Crawford had to use her own car as a dressing room and supply all of her own wardrobe, except for the blue lab coat. --The ratty ape suit used for the "trog" was a leftover/damaged monkey costume from Stanley Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey. That's why Trog only looks like an ape from the shoulders up. The rest of the costume was missing so that's why his arms, chest, and legs appear to look no different than yours or mine. The costume was "acquired" illegally and after the film's release, Kubrick tried to bring a lawsuit against the film's creators. --After seeing this film, Joan Crawford supposedly joked that if it hadn't been for her end-of-life conversion to Christian Science, she might have committed suicide due to her embarrassment at having been in it. Many people took it seriously though, as I said before, she was a heavy alcoholic. "TRRROOOGGG!!!" - Doctor Brockton (Joan Crawford) www.imdb.com/title/tt0066492/
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Post by tsmooth31 on Aug 4, 2007 22:01:08 GMT -5
i have heard of trog but never saw it..i would actually like to see bigger budget movies riffed..with actors i hate of course some would include
matt damon tom cruise christian bale
and so many more but i just cant think right now..but any movies they were in
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Post by Evil Dave on Aug 5, 2007 2:56:47 GMT -5
I've always thought the Batman installment with Arnold playing Mr. Freeze would've given the Bots a lot of riffing fodder. Especially Schwarzenegger's dialogue. Everything he says in that movie is utterly stupifying.
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Post by lazario on Aug 7, 2007 18:11:44 GMT -5
Forrest Gump A Beautiful Mind Good Will Hunting West Side Story
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Post by Evil Dave on Aug 8, 2007 0:25:12 GMT -5
Ahh, those would be great! Especially West Side Story.
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Post by lowkey on Aug 8, 2007 20:57:11 GMT -5
I'd like to have seen them do more good movies, like they did with This Island Earth. Night of the Living Dead, and Dawn of the Dead would be fun to see.
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Post by Evil Dave on Aug 8, 2007 21:33:23 GMT -5
I hate to say it, but the Friday the 13th sequels would've made pretty good riffing fodder.
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Post by lazario on Aug 12, 2007 12:59:47 GMT -5
I agree. Except Jason Takes Manhattan. It's too serious to be funny. And its' seriousness is not what makes it a movie I imagine people don't like.
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Post by biscuitpower on Aug 12, 2007 13:35:07 GMT -5
A boxer's head being punched off is serious since when?
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Post by lazario on Aug 12, 2007 13:47:02 GMT -5
You're starting crap again, Biscuit. I thought you were warned about that.
The TONE of the film is serious. Do I need to explain what that is to you?
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Post by biscuitpower on Aug 14, 2007 17:26:43 GMT -5
You're starting crap again, Biscuit. I thought you were warned about that. The TONE of the film is serious. Do I need to explain what that is to you? No seriously, how is that movie serious? Just because it has a dark tone? There's no way you could make a serious movie about reawakening a drowned zombie killer who attacks a boat and then chases teenagers around manhattan.
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Post by lazario on Aug 14, 2007 17:30:58 GMT -5
The movie has intense stalking sequences, a hard sense of reality, pulls no punches about killing off very sympathetic cast members in a tragic and almost heartless fashion, a cold score, scenes set in overcast skies and on dark streets, and a lot of very heavy story elements (grief, trauma, family problems).
Sorry, you're wrong. You can't say 2 scenes in the movie make it non-serious.
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Post by biscuitpower on Aug 14, 2007 17:41:40 GMT -5
The movie has intense stalking sequences, a hard sense of reality, pulls no punches about killing off very sympathetic cast members in a tragic and almost heartless fashion, a cold score, scenes set in overcast skies and on dark streets, and a lot of very heavy story elements (grief, trauma, family problems). Sorry, you're wrong. You can't say 2 scenes in the movie make it non-serious. The whole movie makes itself non-serious. So if I made a movie about a giant bat that kills it's victims by exploding their heads with high frequency bat screeches it would be serious if I set it during the night in new york, composed some deep dark gothic score and killed off a bunch of "sympathetic" cast you would consider it serious? I don't get your point at all, and the movie is no more serious than any other friday the 13th.
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Post by biscuitpower on Aug 14, 2007 17:43:14 GMT -5
See, you want me to sit here and discuss every scene and every little detail in order for any opinion to be valid in your eyes. You won't even accept the points I make as an opinion. What's the point of arguing with someone who thinks he's always right?
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Post by biscuitpower on Aug 14, 2007 17:45:21 GMT -5
BTW wasn't every Friday the 13th so bad that it's funny in the first place? That's the only reason I own them.
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Post by lazario on Aug 14, 2007 17:50:55 GMT -5
Because the movie is different than the others in the series. And there is a ridiculous amount of proof. It was made by a director who changed the format of the Friday the 13th film in several different ways. A: he made it more surreal - therefore those things you say make the film non-serious can't be judged by the same set of standards as they would in a realistic situation. B: the film focused less on gore and special make-up effects. Because it was more suspense-oriented. Therefore, yeah the tone makes a difference. C: the script was written to be more character-oriented. Therefore, what Rennie and Sean go through in the movie is serious. In the context of the film as a suspenseful "ride"-type experience. And the scenes were there is significant character-related dialogue.
See, I can actually explain myself. What's the point of arguing with me? I don't know. Ask me when we're not talking about one of my favorite movies. I've watched Jason Takes Manhattan at least 18 times.
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Post by biscuitpower on Aug 14, 2007 17:55:43 GMT -5
Because the movie is different than the others in the series. And there is a ridiculous amount of proof. It was made by a director who changed the format of the Friday the 13th film in several different ways. A: he made it more surreal - therefore those things you say make the film non-serious can't be judged by the same set of standards as they would in a realistic situation. B: the film focused less on gore and special make-up effects. Because it was more suspense-oriented. Therefore, yeah the tone makes a difference. C: the script was written to be more character-oriented. Therefore, what Rennie and Sean go through in the movie is serious. In the context of the film as a suspenseful "ride"-type experience. And the scenes were there is significant character-related dialogue. See, I can actually explain myself. What's the point of arguing with me? I don't know. Ask me when we're not talking about one of my favorite movies. I've watched Jason Takes Manhattan at least 18 times. I gave you many explanations, you just dismiss them right away like you always do. There is no point arguing with you at all, no one will ever get through to you. Have fun with your "serious" Jason Vorhees.
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Post by lazario on Aug 14, 2007 18:00:41 GMT -5
Your explanations just didn't make the grade. If I know more about the movie, I think I'd know better than you. Can you actually except that? Because if not, then the thing there's no point in is talking to you.
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Post by lowkey on Aug 14, 2007 18:25:04 GMT -5
I think it was supposed to be serious, but it's very hard to take it seriously. I think more people would be forgiving of it, if Jason had of, I don't know...taken Manhattan instead of a boat on it's way to Manhattan, for the majority of the movie. I will give 8 two things though; it's not Jason goes to Hell, or Jason X. It's not the worst of the series, but it's high in the running for most disapointing.
If you are fond of it though, that's cool. We don't all have to like the same movies here. I rather like parts 3 and 7, and a lot of people really despise them as much. Especially 3 and for very good reasons. 3 was basically one big 3D gimmick, and a platform for Dana Kimmell to push her fundamentalist, moral crusade against horror and porn.
Part 5 gets a lot of hate too, but I think it's almost as good as part 4, it just doesn't technically involve Jason. I think it was a pretty good idea to move away from Jason, and let someone else wear the mask. By the end of part 4 there was no way he was coming back. He'd been through enough to be killed several times over, as well as maimed and crippled if he managed to survive.
6 while good for a Friday the 13th sequel, made him supernatural instead of just a homicidal freak. This is really where the series started to take a nosedive imo. Part 6 should have been a crazy, escaped mental patient Tommy wearing the mask, instead of further adventures of Freddy from Return of the Living Dead. Bonus! Horshack was his side kick for about 2 minutes.
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