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Post by lazario on Dec 2, 2007 5:34:53 GMT -5
Horror spoofs aren't usually well made. Unfortunately, because I really like spoofs (good ones, at least).
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Post by Evil Dave on Dec 2, 2007 5:41:11 GMT -5
Yep, I agree. Definitel not enough quality satires out there. Too bad because I like them as well. Like you said, most are just subpar, at best. It's the type of thing that either really gets it right, or fails completely. Not a lot of middle ground to work with.
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Post by lazario on Dec 2, 2007 5:42:42 GMT -5
Usually, it's subtly that's the key. Most filmmakers either don't know about it, or they're afraid to try subtle because it would be easier to sell their film if it were more overt. But overt is everywhere. It's too accessible and cheap.
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Post by Evil Dave on Dec 2, 2007 5:52:49 GMT -5
You're right. The lack of intelligence in the average movie-goer has lead to some really watered down scripts. And that goes for all genres. It's too bad most directors care more about relating to the dummies of the world to make a nice profit rather than making a smart, well-made film. There's still a few out there, but they're getting harder and harder to find. I guess you could also say that the film studios and they're greedy execs are just as much at fault. They're always about nothing but cash, and they drop all their funding into projects for the dumb of the earth rather than the smart. But then again, all this also says quite a bit about the majority of the population here in this country...............And it's not something good.
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Post by lazario on Dec 2, 2007 6:00:26 GMT -5
I believe I've said the opposite in earlier threads, but... I think the filmmakers are more like audience members today. The only difference is they know how to point a camera and shoot. They're probably very good at math, though. And of course, have extensive knowledge of shooting music videos. Studios would rather hire the technical hotshot than a person who can direct a great movie with intelligence, a knowledge of real art (I miss the production designer, critic, and editor directors!), and are to some extent movie buffs.
Today's new horror directors direct their movies like they're making music videos (and bad ones), or like Se7en was the greatest movie ever made.
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Post by malbowski13 on Dec 2, 2007 11:11:11 GMT -5
Dead and Breakfast did have a kick-ass chainsaw scene that rivals many others, IMO. Stupid story and that singing crap but worth checking out.(That just sounds weird.)
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Post by lazario on Dec 2, 2007 11:15:43 GMT -5
What sounds weird?
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Post by malbowski13 on Dec 2, 2007 11:16:25 GMT -5
How I picked the shit out of it but also say it's worth checking out.
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Post by lazario on Dec 2, 2007 11:20:23 GMT -5
No, I get what you mean. A lot of movies are worth checking out. I would say even certain inherently bad movies are worth checking out. I thought Devil's Rejects was a pretty bad movie (so for all those who liked it - yeah: it was good...for a Bad Movie). But that ending alone makes it worth checking out.
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Post by malbowski13 on Dec 2, 2007 17:26:40 GMT -5
Did you feel any sympathy for them at the end? Be honest.
I felt that the ending,combined with "Free Bird" was one of my favorites.
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Post by tsmooth31 on Dec 3, 2007 0:14:28 GMT -5
i saw devils rejects when it first came out in theaters and i cant even remember the ending
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Post by Evil Dave on Dec 3, 2007 1:08:01 GMT -5
^^^Seriously? I thought the ending was the best part! Well, that and Capt. Spaulding banging the hell outta that porn star, lol!
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Post by tsmooth31 on Dec 3, 2007 2:02:10 GMT -5
haha that doesnt even ring a bell i guess ill have to check it out again
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Post by lazario on Dec 3, 2007 7:15:52 GMT -5
Did you feel any sympathy for them at the end? Be honest. Absolutely NOT. And I am being 100% honest. One of the reasons I salute the whole ending is because you finally saw them tortured... a little bit. Though it was still more than I expected to see, they didn't go through enough to make me feel bad for them. The shootout ending scene was exciting. And that's why that worked. It was very well edited and well, Rob Zombie has experience with music videos. So this works very well. Yeah it's one of the best scenes in horror/thriller movies this decade. And one of the 2 best scenes in movie history scored to "Freebird." However, I still give the edge to Forrest Gump, because unlike the Firefly family, you had better believe I felt sorry for Ginny / Jenny. ^^^Seriously? I thought the ending was the best part! Well, that and Capt. Spaulding banging the hell outta that porn star, lol! That was actually a very interesting scene. Not that sex part. That was stupid and pointless (why put it in a horror movie when you can get a much better version, if you like that sort of thing, in a porn movie? Separation of Horror and Porn! Needs to be in the Horror Amendments!). But when she turned a gun on him. And he didn't just kill her. That was clever. And he also didn't kill his "more cushion for the pushin'" girlfriend either. I appreciated that.
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Post by lowkey on Dec 3, 2007 7:40:58 GMT -5
I felt sympathy for Captain Spaulding. He had some humanity about him, that the other two lacked. He doesn't kill when he doesn't have to--like when he steals the car. He also showed empathy for Baby when they were being tortured. There was something about him that made me think, had he not been part of such a messed up family, maybe he would have been normal.
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Post by lazario on Dec 3, 2007 9:08:58 GMT -5
I have to agree.
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Post by malbowski13 on Dec 3, 2007 19:07:57 GMT -5
Good point about Capt. Spaulding. I guess it's cause he's a very funny character it's hard not to sympathize. Forrest Gump? Is that when Jenny is standing on the edge of the balcony? No sympathy going that way.Forrest was always there but he wasn't good enough.Sort of like real life...
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Post by Evil Dave on Dec 4, 2007 0:59:24 GMT -5
I'd say I deff felt sympathy for the Jenny character in Forrest Gump. She was a good person underneath (as we see at the end of the movie), but she had such a fucked up childhood that I'm guessing the stripping, drugs, and horrible choices in men all stemmed from that incestrial bastard that was her father. Definitely not an uncommon effect from that sort of situation.
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Post by lazario on Dec 4, 2007 5:30:16 GMT -5
Forrest Gump? Is that when Jenny is standing on the edge of the balcony? Yep. They used visual style to do something that all other movies & tv were doing the after-school-special approach to telling kids "suicide is wrong." You don't ever feel a person's pain or fear. In that scene from Forrest Gump (even though I hated most the rest of the movie), you know it's sad already. But you also see the sort of appeal of it and feel the fear of it too. Hard to explain to some people, but others will kind of understand what I mean.
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Post by Evil Dave on Dec 4, 2007 9:14:10 GMT -5
^^^You hated the rest of the movie? Wtf
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